Follow the Leader


6 Sneak Previews for this week’s episode of Lost – Follow the Leader!

Jack and Kate watch as Faraday’s shot (and killed as confirmed by the writers). Jack tells Kate that he thinks this is the reason why they are all back. To put things back the way they are suppose to be. Some unknown other gives Jack a good beating.

John Locke and Richard are reunited. Richard finally recognizes someone, and Locke has a purpose.

Sun’s still looking for Jin, and Richard says he knew them in the 70s…because he watched them all die!

Kate and Jack have been captured by the Others. Jack wants to erase everything that’s happened, Kate’s a little more sentimental…or maybe she just doesn’t want to go to jail for murdering her father like she was originally on the plane to do.

Sawyer and Juliette are being questioned by Radzinsky. He threatens Sawyer’s life if he doesn’t tell him where Kate is.

Quite possibly the funniest Hurley scene so far. Enjoy!

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163 Responses to Follow the Leader

  1. Jones

    Adam, I was thinking that about Jacob lies in the shadow of the statue also. I wasn’t thinking about the possible play on words though with that being Jacob’s resting place good stuff.
    That also could tie back into the “the key lies in the shadow” theory there a few threads back. With obviously Jacob being the Key.
    I was also wondering about something else. What if, instead of the number 8, the symbol for infinity is actually implied. Not sure yet how it would all play in but for example the bunny with the number 8, maybe symbolic of a time loop or continuation of that bunny? or, for that matter, the 8 inside the bunny statues ear in “Some Like it Hoth” symbolizing Jacob’s link to eternal consciousness. The 8=infinity stuff is pretty lame though lol.

  2. Moohaha

    Jones,

    thats an interesting insight into it being an infinity symbol, rather than an eight. Thats thinking outside the box.

    5 more days

  3. Totallylost

    Moohaha- Thanks for not letting me stand alone!!!!

    Jones- Re post 97, I see what you are saying about the tie in of Ben not being able to kill Jacob because Aaron is possibly Jacob. I am still leaning towards Jack’s dad or someone else being Jacob, but clearly Ben has “Jacob” issues, as his whole deameanor changes every time his name comes up. In fact, his eyes become more “bugged” than usual whenever Jacob’s name comes up.

    One other thought about Aaron, does anyone remember in season 4 (I think) when Kate saw Claire in Aaron’s bedroom. Claire emphatically said “Don’t bring him back Kate, don’t you dare.” Well, I think the general consensus in the posts on this site was that Claire was referring to Aaron, so if that is the case, I cannot see him as Jacob. But, on the other hand, there is all that stuff the psychic said to Claire befoe she left Austrlia.

    Adam- Brilliant theory on Jacob and possibly having a resting place under the statute. There could also be another temple like structure under the statute that holds other mysteries of the island.

  4. adam

    or maybe the h-bomb lies in the shadow.

  5. Jones

    Adam,
    I think D-ville was said to have been built over the H-Bomb by Ellie in the last episode. Not sure if that rules out the H-Bomb or not.
    Depending on what you consider the shadow, a big area could be covered. A statue that tall would cast a big shadow on many parts of the island depending on the position of the sun. I for one have always thought that they meant directly underneath the Statue since there would always be a shadow there but really if that isn’t it there is still a big area to cover.

    Any guess’s as to what is in the crate that Ilana and co. brought to the island. I think, Guns and things like that along with a locating device.
    There for a sec I just thought that maybe they brought another bomb with them to try to recreate the incident, but then I remembered it might be pretty hard to get that on to a passenger plane lol.

  6. biglostfan

    Does anyone remember excatly where on the island the statue ( well the legs now) stands? I was thinking it was on the opposite side of the island where the losties first set up camp on the beach. is it anywhere near the temple? I can’t remember.

  7. richard7769

    BLF- I was only referancing my theory on Richard Albert being part of the Black Rock crew and they were punished for whatever reason and spent to live on the island forever and never grow old. That’s all, thats why I was so caught to see him building the ship in the bottle that looked like the Black Rock. I hope it’s all tied in together.

  8. jonathan

    Biglostfan, we know the statue is in the shore of the island, and its back was seen by Sawyer & co. when they were in the Orchid, actually in the well that was there before.

  9. Josh

    I can’t believe Faraday died! that was kinda a shocker…I hope no else dies next week. and I really wanna seee what was in that box with Ilana on the island. here are some theories: Predictions

  10. jonathan

    I jus realized that Ms. Hawking was pregnant by the time she shot Faraday.
    I thought the little Daniel was born at that time, as Charlotte was already 6 years old and i assumed he was older than her.
    But while Ms. Hawking’s conversation with Widmore, he told her she shouldnt go in her condition and she touched her belly.

  11. jonathan

    About Richard, i guess he is either the captain/crew member /descendant of Black Rock or and ancient egyptian god Ra (Richard Alpert?).
    Cant think of something else.

  12. biglostfan

    Hey Richard7769,

    I had always kinda thought something simular that the hostiles including Richard mos def had been cursed kinda like the crew from Pirates of the carribean, where they are immortal and have to protect the island until this curse is lifted. Oh wow that actually sounds pretty good when I read it.

    also Jonathan, I remember them seeing the back of the statue standing by the well, didn’t they say at one point that the orchid was directly in the middle of the island? or am I misstaken? and if I’m correct the temple is not close to the orchid is it? can anyone find me a map of the island?

  13. biglostfan

    Jonathan,

    ref post # 110, I believe the writters came out and admitted that they had messed up Charlotte’s age, because so many (including myself) were speculating that the times they told us were not adding up correctly, that they originally wanted her to be older like 38 but the actress did not want to be portrayed that old ,so they didn’t fix it and thats what got everyone confused.

    crazy thing is Jeremy Davies is a lot older in real life than what they portrayed him to be on the show, I wanna say 39 but I could be wrong there, but I’m sure they want us to believe that Farady was in his early thirties.

  14. Totallylost

    Biglostfan and Richard7769- Re the theories about the others possibly being cursed or banished to the island forever, that is a good one. I am not sure how that works with the fact that the others can be killed, and have in fact been killed. Maybe only some of them are immortal or banned for life. Very interesting . . .

    Here is a thought I have about how the losties get back to the future, and why they all need to be in the future. It is way out there, so please bear with me. When John pushed the FDW and left the island he was telling the O6 (except Sun) that they all needed to go back. As for as we know he never said why they needed to come back. John is whacked by Ben and other events intervene that sends them all back to the island.

    But, something happened along the way, and some are in the past and some in the future. The island has told John what to do, and I am assuming that he needs to get everyone to the future, but Jacob has to go for that to happen. I also think that the h-bomb threat needs to be neutralized but more on that later.

    Next is why do the others need to all be in the future? So they could be reunited and rescued? So we can see Rose and Bernard again??? I don’t think so. Remember that before Jack got on the helicopter John specifically told Jack that they “were not supposed to leave” but John could not tell Jack why. He was not in his reincarnated self so he only had a feeling. Now John knows why and I think that it is because Illana, Bram et al are a serious threat to the island and he needs all the losties together to neutralize the threat. There has to be a reason why Illana, Bran and that bloody case are in the present. Maybe they are part of some diabolical plan to hurt the island, and once the h-bomb threat is removed, the losties can save the day, and get closure on all their issues. But as it stands now there is no one to stop Ilana’s gang except the scragglers from the Aljira flight, so the island-save 06 are needed.

    Well, that is all I’ve got. I have a double bullet proof vest on for anyone who thinks I need to be shot down!!!!

  15. Tyler

    Not going to bother posting theories, just going to say that this is one of the best episodes of Lost I have ever seen. This is leading up to one hell of a season finale. Hopefully Jack won’t manage to stop his plane from ever crashing on the island.

  16. Moohaha

    JONES,
    Re: post 105 – There could very well be a bomb or something in the crate. Follow me here,

    1st, We know that Widmore has influence with an airline because he said to Sun, when she was detained earlier in season 5 “they do whatever I tell them to do” referring to the airline personnel. But we never learn which airline, It could quite possibly be Ajira.

    2nd, we still dont know who Ilana and her group are aligned with. They very well could be affilliated with Widmore, but not all of them know it. Meaning if he was to supply them with weapons, a bomb, whatever in the crate, then he may well be able to get it on the flight for them.

    I have no idea whats in this crate or whose side these new people are on. Im not even sure I really support my own theory, but by piggybacking off of Jones’ post, this is one way I could see them actually getting weapons or a bomb on board.

  17. Moohaha

    Tyler,

    Yeah, I think for the first time, I am actually rooting for Jack to fail

  18. Totallylost

    I messed up the last sentence of the second to last paragraph. It should say that for the island to be saved it needs the 06.

  19. Totallylost

    Moohaha- if Widmore’s influence did gt a bomb on Aljira air does that mean that he is a bad guy?

  20. biglostfan

    what if this new group is alined with Jacob? I mean the way Ben interacted with them was not hostile, he even asked if they needed help, not that Ben is nessacerily with Jacob, but he seems to know more about him than anyone else. I mean Ben was worried severly when the freighter people came to the island, why not worried about this new group? Ben acted like he new what was in the crate. maybe he’s just going along with Locke to keep him distracted so this new group can go find what lies beneath the statue.

    So I don’t think that they are Widmore’s men at all. cause member when that Brawm dude kidnapped Miles in van and told him he was with the wrong group, he new Widmore had hired Miles to go to the island. I def leaning more towards Ben hiring this group, I still think they could be hostiles.

  21. Totallylost

    Biglostfan- re post 120, well done. Yes, Ben’s reaction to Illana et all was no where near the sheer desperataion and terror he demonstrated about the freighter. But, then again, maybe that we because he wanted to save his own skin from being killed by Widmore.

  22. biglostfan

    Kick Ass! thanks Jonathan!

  23. Totallylost

    Jonathan- Great map of the island. But, here is my question. How can the looking glass be so far away from the beach???? It is further away from the beach than the door. If I recall correctly Sun, Jin and Sayid sailed to the door past the statute and it took them quite a while. Desmond and Charlie took a canoe to go to the looking glass, and it did not take them that long either and they were paddling in the open sea. In fact, after Charlie died it seems that Desmond just paddled right up to the beach where Hurley, Julietee and Sawyer were standing right after they killed Mr. Friendly and the gang, and it did not look as if he had been paddling for all that long. It as also still daytime, so nothing happend overnight.

  24. biglostfan

    has anyone noticed that it rains on the island when smokie is around? just a side thought.

  25. Totallylost

    Biglostfan- Yes, most of the time, but not when Mr. Echo was killed, nor when Danielle’s crew was attacked.

    Was there some paticular reason why John showed up in Richard’s camp with a dead boar??? It did not look like the others needed food. In fact, that is the same thing Miles did early in this season- he brought a boar to the camp but the flaming arrows came before they could cook it. Any significance??

  26. biglostfan

    Aw damn Totally lost your right!

  27. Sandy

    I think John is calling Richard’s bluff so to speak.
    I don’t think anyone has ever seen Jacob, because there really is NO Jacob. Or at least not a separate person. I think Richard is Jacob. I think that is why John was so smug and teasing Richard. Let’s go meet Jacob. ;) Johan was smiling and enjoying himself. Like he had figured out a secret. And I think that is why John told Ben that he is going to kill Jacob. I think that meant that he is going to kill the lie and let the truth out. Just a theory. :)

  28. Totallylost

    Sandy, you could be right, but who said “help me” to Locke the first time he went to the cabin, who threw stuff around in the cabin, and who threw Ben against the wall, ?? Did Ben have a hidden tape recorder there, and jerry-rigged the cabin to make it appear like a spirit was there???

    I do recall that Ben was astounded when John told him what Jacob said, and that very well could be because Ben knows Jacob is a lie. Or, maybe that was not Jacob at all who spoke to John but was the island speaking to John.

    I am ready for the next episode.

  29. jonathan

    Totallylost, and what if Jacob was saying ”help me” to Ben and not to Locke?
    Locke says now he is going to kill Jacob…
    Thats crazy i know….
    But i am sure there is a Jacob.

  30. jonathan

    About the comic con video, the producers said in the last podcast that it was Faraday’s voice indeed, and it was filmed way before the 5th season, and it was meant to be in a new ARG they would do ,in wich they would link it to the show, but unfortunately the ARG was cancelled, so there’s nothing more about it to see.

  31. Karen

    ok, a bit back from you all but finally got to watch the episode. An it was a good one!
    this now its clear (at least to me) that people can mirror themselves in the past/present, i.e. locke seeing himself with the bullet in the leg, etc.

    Ellie doesnt look so bad, maybe as someone pointed out sometime ago, she became hard to Daniel because she knew about everything that was going to happen. Did anyone noticed she seemed to be pregnant? how awful must that be to expect the son you just shot !!

    im confused about how they’re going to get the bomb out of there

    Kate pissed me off SO much! first she saves little Ben, then she follows Jack and changes her mind and finally she goes in the sub when Juliet and Jim were finally reunited and peaceful – to mess everything up!

  32. Karen

    btw, the hurley scene – hilarious !!

    what year were you born, heuuuu 1931, so you are 46 ??? yeah dude, im 46

    hahahahahahaa

  33. Karen

    Scott post 7 – i had this iimpression at one episode when Goodwin’s wife (cant recall the name but she was Juliet’s psy) came out of nowhere in the jungle to tell juliet some stuff (which i dont recall either). I mean NO WAY she was following juliet and jack, and that she was a vision bcos Jack saw her too! so that is weird and it could be that she was there at that moment, just as locke was

  34. Karen

    Jonathan, post 121 – awesome! you get to have a much better view of where they’re going when you actually get the map! brigadao

  35. Totallylost

    Jonathan- You are right- The “help me” could have been directed to Ben.

    I am with you though, I think there is a jacob, but I think that we are all going to be blown away as to who he is, and what is his connection to the island. I think the “Others” will be to, as they have never seen him and may be in for a real shock.

    Karen- I am also pissed at Kate for ruining Sawyer and Juliette’s moment. Too bad Juliette is a wimp now, but she is a good match for Sawyer.

    The only reason why Kate does not want things to be set right is because she does not want to go jail. So selfish . . .

    Four and a half days to go . . .

  36. canadianbeetle

    Thanks Jonathan for mentioning the latest (and last of the season) podcast from the creators/producers of LOST.

    You are right – they confirmed that the COMIC CON video of Faraday filming Chang originally had a purpose, but it will not come into play now that Faraday has died, and the story has moved along.

    I will forwarn that the podcast may have SPOILERS for some fans, so enjoy at your own risk!

    .http://www.docarzt.com/lost/exclusive-next-weeks-official-lost-podcast-now/

  37. Karen

    to me jacob is the first man on the island, whose spirit remained forever, a bit like richard alpert but differently, since up to now jacob is either absent or in the body of another man, christian sheperd. unless of course christian is living the same as locke is, that would be being alive after being dead, but to jack this is impossible bcos he doesnt know locke is alive. anyway, it could be that christian resuscitated from the crash, escaped into the island and this experience was so incredible to him that he decided to disconnect from jack and his past life and become someone else in the island. he somehow found the cabin and started living there. he then convinced claire to follow him, brainwashed her or something and now he became jacob. it makes sense since Ben has apparently never seen jacob. and when they were in the cabin with locke, the real spirit of jacob spoke to locke. that would make sense

  38. Totallylost

    Karen- interesting thoughts above.

    I wonder what Jack is going to say when he see’s Lock alive and well?????

  39. Ken

    I have no way to back up this theory but I feel like Jacob is either another version of John Locke or Jack’s father, Christian.
    My feeling is that Jacob can appear in any human body and that is why Christian is seen walking on the island. In those scenes, I believe he is the voice of Jacob. Also, I think we see John Locke alive and well in 2007 because he is the new embodiement of Jacob. Thus he is here to kill the existing body, which would be Christian. I know its far-fetched and there are no signs to support it but that’s what I’m theorizing :)

  40. adam

    nothing is changing things are following the same path right now.
    charlotte said an old man told her she had to leave the island at that was dan….plus all the other shit we know has already happened like locke telling richard to tell locke what to do….time is not course correcting it seems to be following the same pattern

    dont know what this means…

  41. Totallylost

    In thinking back to when Jacob said to John “help me”, maybe John saying that he is going to kill jacob is not about exposing “the man behind the curtain” or getting rid of him so that John can take over the pride so to speak. Instead, what if it is about helping jacob or releasing him from the cabin so that he can help with the incident.

    Why is it that jacob seems to be confined to a crappy cabin in the jungle, instead of in the temple with smokey or somewhere else?? Is it because the ash ring around the temple is some kind of barrier or magic that has bound him so that he can only use other bodies like Walt, Yemmi, Dave, Christan, Claire, or even Vincent to do his will. If so, who put it there?? Likely Ben because he is a power hungry control freak, and was a self-imposed leader instead of an appointed one like John appears to be.

    Go ahead, call me crazy if you feel it necessary.

    By the way, in the US I saw an extended pre-view scene for the Incident and it shows Jack telling Sawyer (or I think it is him) that “it is our destiny.” Isnt’t that the same thing John told Jack at the Orchid at the end of season 4, and Jack basically told john to piss-off??? How ironic that Jack is using the same words now. I guess seeing his daddy at his office (which prompted the pill popping) and hearing john tell jack (after John got in the car accident) about seeing daddy changed him.

    3 days to go . . .

  42. Totallylost

    One more thing- Does anyone have a theory as to what Richard meant when he told Sun that he watched the losties in the Dharma photo die?? Could is possibly have been them flashing forward in time to the present, and Richard assumed that they were dead, or something else??

    On that same note, from the time of the plane crash did Richard ever come into direct contact with any of the O6??? I ask because I guess it is unlikley that he would say that he saw the losties die if he infact saw them betwwen 2004 and the present.

  43. Totallylost

    I think I answered my own question. I don’t think Richard ever came in contact with the losties (except John) because he never went to the beach where they were, and was never in the Barracks or the Hydra when they were there. Instead he has always lived in the jungle “off the land,” I wonder why, or am I wrong. I am tired so my memory is faulty.

  44. richard7769

    Totallylost-back on post 114 i like your theory but here is my take. I believe that jack and them are back to ensure that the H bomb does get exploded to keep the timeline connected and when they set it off they will be transported into the future with Locke.

    I do like the theory that Locke is trying to kill the lie about Jacob but I feel that he will only find that it’s true and will be punished in some way from Jacob. Poor Locke has to learn the hard way each and every time.

  45. jonathan

    Totallylost, Richard met Kate and Sayid in 2004 as far as i remember.
    He embushed them in the jungle, and made a deal with them to help him get Ben from Keamy’s men, so he would let they go off the island. After they set Ben free, they were allowed to leave on the chopper.
    So, after the crash of 815, he met Locke, Sayid and Kate.
    He met some other characters only in the past,like Sawyer and Jack.

  46. richard7769

    With the comment between Richard and Ben that Locke looks to be trouble and Ben says why do you think I tried to kill him, it almost makes you wonder that the others are not looking for a leader but more a symbol for their people. Sort of like a priest that has God to tell him what to do and he in return interpets for others.

  47. Hayley

    Very random and irrelevant but for the few people who are struggling with the Locke bullet scene….. have u read/watched Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban?? lol there is a very similar scene in there in which Harry fires a Patronus to save himself in a different timeline.

    And yes the sub scene was sooooooo cheesey, it looked naff!

  48. Totallylost

    Jonathan- I forgot all about that scene with Kate and Sayid. Thanks. Given that he saw Kate prior to the time period he is in now, how could he say that he watched her die when he only saw her a few years ago?? Is he getting old and just forgot, or is there some hidden meaning that we do not know about.

  49. Richard7769

    Totallylost- I believe that he is more aware of the time changes and he may have seen them get blown up with the H bomb (i’m sticking with my theory) and he knows that they probably should have died when it goes boom.

  50. Totallylost

    Richard7769- I think that you are right about the bomb needing to go off. Maybe it goes off at the same time as the as the electormagnetic anomoly, and those 2 things together create a flash that sends the island or the losties into the current time period.

    But, how do they get the bomb out of there? If it weighs 40,000 pounds, it cannot be put in a VW Bus. Maybe the same Home Depot on the island that is providing the materials to build the hatch has materials that will allow them to build a pully system to get it out. Or, better yet, maybe smokey can be turned into a giant crane and lift it out of there.

    3 days and counting . . .

  51. Richard7769

    Totallylost – I’m going with smokie, i believe that smokie will this. my thought is that Richard Albert can control it. The Home depot is maybe a little off (LOL).

    I think that since it is located in the tunnels good ole smokie has brought it down there,

  52. adam

    i thought when the bomb was hanging in the valley it looked larger than what it does in the cave. not really a big deal but i thought it was huge the first time we saw it and it looks small now.

    i hope smokie doesnt return to this show

    and i thought we were getting an answer on how ben ended up in danielle’s trap and how he stole the identity of the guy in the hot air balloon.

  53. Richard7769

    Scott- here is one sneak peak I could find
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v79Y3vOC1-A

  54. Scott
  55. Jones

    I don’t think that smokie brought the bomb down simply because the wooden structure it is sitting on has wheels.

    I only want smokie to come back if they actually explain it and it has a good story, for me this part of the show has been too far fetched for too long. I don’t think it will ever live up to anyones expectations of what exactly it is now after all this time.

    I am already dreading the long wait after the episode is over this week.

  56. Moohaha

    I have a theory on how Richard claims to have seen the originial Losties die. Since things have been changed by all the time shifts between the different time periods, the pas as we and the losties know it, hasnt happened, instead, the different path that had occurred has seen all the losties in 1977 killed, and witnessed by Richard.

    I dont know if I explained that well enough. That may be more confusing than it seems in my head.

  57. Wolowitz

    I think I get what your on about Moohahah, Richard saw all the losties die in 1977 before they had come to the island in 2004, which would be very odd from his point of view. ‘Finally those people who died 30 years ago have arrived on the island for the first time and have no clue on what is going on with the island even though they did 30 years ago.’

    I hope I have got your point Moohaha, but if not I’ll claim it as my own theory.

    If that was the last podcast, is there not going to be a rehash of ‘the indecent’ for 8 months until the start of the final series?

  58. GreenEyedAmber

    Re: Post 154

    I agree. The H-bomb was much bigger when it was hanging. Dare I say, it looks half the size…

  59. Moohaha

    Maybe the bomb shrunk. Maybe it was Jacobs will to have a smaller H-bomb, so he had the smoke monster shrink it.

    (im kidding by the way)

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