The Variable – Episode 100!
Thanks to Richard for finding these previews of Lost’s 100th Episode “The Variable”. An interesting name that ties directly back to the episode entitled “The Constant”. It looks to be a great one.
Farraday tells Jack that it is not his destiny to be back on the island, and in fact, he shouldn’t be anywhere near it.
Juliette looks to be packing her things and leaving to head back to the beach camp. Sawyer asks if she still has his back, she asks him the same thing – with a doubtful tone.
Farraday meets up with Dr. Chang and tells him that he needs to evacuate the island due to what’s sure to be “the incident” that we’ve been hearing about forever. He tells Chang he knows this because he’s from the future. Too bad we cant see Chang’s face to see how he reacted to hearing that.
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this episode looks really good…i cannot wait!
So the scene with faraday and chang is right after the scene from the first episode this season where they bump into each other right? guess it doesnt matter.
looks promising !!
only problem with Daniel is that he is not convincing. i mean if a weak, thin guy came to you and told you about the incident and then supports the theory by saying that he comes from the future, how would you react ? exactly!
Also, Daniel should not waste his time: what happened, happened. he cannot change the course of things
I know we have posted a few sites in the past that you can watch past episodes on but I just found a Canadian TV station that does it also: http://www.ctv.ca/programs.
I know that people outside the US cannot view the episodes on abc.com, I’m not sure if the same goes for this site.
Below is a direct link to the episodes.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/show/CTVShows/20040922/Lost-special/20090205/
Lost – The Complete 5th Season: Dharma Initiation Kit ,limited edition with many extras.
Available december 8th in america,pre-order at Amazon .com
Anyone interested, here is an article from that same tv station dealing with lost and its 100th episode. FYI there are no spoilers.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090428/lost_100_episodes_090428/20090428?hub=Entertainment
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&sort=releasedate&keywords=Lost%3A%20The%20Complete%20Fifth%20Season&tag=tvshowsondvdcom&index=dvd&link%5Fcode=qs
one more day before lost!! Yeah!!!!
I CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Karen, thanks for the laugh calling Faraday a weak thin guy!!!
Julietee seems worried that Sawyer is going to dump her. I also wonder about Daniel telling Jack that he does not belong there.
Poor Jack. Although Eloise may have told him that going back was his destiny, I still think he went back because John told him about his father being alive, and because he saw his dad (at his office right before he started popping pills).
I certianly hope he starts taking a larger role in this series, as he is mostly MIA this season, and has not really served any purpose.
totallylost, i fully agree with you. i watched some past episodes of lost and Jack has changed SO much! before he was the leader, the decision maker… no he is like a guest star in the show! geez…
hey Jonathan, are you brazilian !!?
Karen, yes i am, from the south of Brazil, i live in a town called Porto Alegre, hometown of the soccer player Ronaldinho from A.C Milan.
Jack’s time will come…he will be important again.
The cast celebration for the 100th episode.
http://colunas.tv.globo.com/lostinlost/
jonathan- nice clip thanks for sharing.
I do have a question though- Jack in the beginning has been let’s get to it kind of guy and has thought through some serious problems…. This season he has acted like a punch drunk prom date…. okay whatever type attitude…WTF.
I’ve really enjoyed this season don’t get me wrong it just seems his role has taken a little siesta so to speak. I hope he picks up speed in the next few weeks.
Also I need a Locke fix and Ben…. 13 HOURS TO GO BRING IT ON!!!!!
SCOTT- How do you get a picture attached???
Richard7769,
You have to go to a site called
http://www.gravatar.com
There is a link for the website just below the “Submit Comment” button.
I will have to put one up myself when I get around to it (which is usually never lol).
Richard, i tried to join that gravatar.com in order to put my picture, but it would never accept any passwords i tried to use, so i gave up.
Probably i did something wrong. Scott, help us out.
I ususally enjoy the episodes with Faraday involved, looks like tonight should be no different.
I find it very strange that Sawyer says, “I’m going back to the beach”. At first I thought he was talking about the beach camp the 815 losties made but that is impossible since that is not there yet (they are in 77 so it never happaned yet) I guess he could mean that he is going back to where the sub is or any other beach for that matter but I just found it strange.
To get a picture on Gravatar.com:
- go to the sign up page – http://en.gravatar.com/site/signup/
- enter your email address (the same one you enter here on this site to leave comments)
- go to your email and there should be an activation link for you to click on
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i think he meant the sub for sure. there are so many characters that have been lost in this season….no pun intended. jack, locke and desmond are rarely in it.
I agree with what everyone is saying about Jack. what happened to him to make him really not care anymore. It seems like he just doesn’t care what happens to him.so sad. I loved Jack!! Also what’s up with his tattoo, didn’t they confirm that it meant something like a leader who walks amoung us but it not truely one of us. Is that correct? I really hope that this comes into play later. I like Jack being in charge, it just feels weird with Sawyer calling the shots here.
biglostfan,
I forgot all about that tattoo.
From Lostpedia
The literal translation of the tattoo, “Eagles high, cleaving sky”
Translation given by Isabel in “Stranger in a Strange Land”, “He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us.”
Achara (the one that done the tattoo) said that she the gift of sight to see someone’s inner identity and said that Jack was “a leader, a great man” and that is what Jack tried to force her to tattoo on him.
FYI it said that Matthew Fox had the tattoo before coming to the show.
If Isabel’s translation is right then that could sort of support my theory that Jack is a time traveler himself.
The gravatar site worked fine for me!!
Hopefully you guys will be able to get it also.
It’s my belief that the ones in 1977 will go to the beach because of whatever is going to happen at the Dharma site. Also this could possibly explain what happens so that there are no more babies being born on the island also.
That was funny about Faraday being the weak thin guy Karen.
I guess the gravatar worked now.
Jonathan and Richard7769- Nice to put a face to the posts!!
12 hours to go- I can’t wait. We need to start getting some answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im back, and im psyched for tonight!!!
Where have you been Moohaha???
From the clip with Jack and Daniel it makes you think that Daniel had other plans when he directed Desmond to his mother. Maybe Daniel thought his mom would help Desmond get back to ‘77, but that he would be alone.
roni -
such a good point and i totally forgot about that. daniel was the one who told dez to go there…..wonder why that wasn’t the right thing to do? maybe thats not his mom??
i feel like we are getting a lot of answers tonight…hope im not wrong.
def good to see faces with the names.
hey everyone, great to see all the avatars!
you guys in the US are so lucky, i have to wait till tomorrow to watch Lost… enjoy it for me
oi Jonathan, quê surpresa ! beijo pra là!
hey jones,
thanks for clearing that up, I was close on the translation but off by a little.
he walks amongst us but is not one of us, if we take this literily, doesn’t sound like something someone would say about some sort of god?
could make sense that he has some sort of a connection with the island, I say that because the island has already connected with his father Christian and with his half sister Claire, and his little nephew Aaron being born on the island, its def a family thing.I think there is something that we are missing here!
About Jack, i still believe that the scene we saw on the beggining of the pilot was not his first time on the island.
Karen, tu falas português? Isso sim é uma surpresa! De onde tu és? Já sei que moraste no Chile, mas és americana? Conheces o Brasil?
aprendi por aqui
adoro Brasil, vou todos os anos
) sou suiça, morei no Chile 18 anos e agora estou de novo aqui.
SORRY guys, just a parenthesis! nothing to do with Lost, just networking
Hi everyone –
My car is cuter than I am, so you will have to look at it as my avatar!
It definitely looks as though tonight’s episode will give us some answers as far as where Daniel has been (Ann Arbor), and what he was working on there (Research for Dharma? Research for himself?).
Because of the connection between a “constant” and a “variable” I am also hoping that Desmond is around tonight, but the previews didn’t give us any scenes of his.
With so little episodes left, I really feel that we need some consistency in each week’s episodes answering the lingering questions, so that we can focus on the big picture next year!
Speaking of Jack, here he was yesterday in David Letterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTvdLWpgJPc
Karen, legal saber disso!
Adam, I am 100% sure that Ms Hawking is Faradays mother. I also know who his father is, if your interested, but I think they will show us tonight anyway. I def think there was another reason for Faraday sending Desmond to visit his mother. the strange thing was that he knew excatly where she was at. I wonder if she is the one that helped the freighter people find the island as well , I’m with Roni on that he asked him to go there thinking that he would go back to 1977 with the rest of them, for some unknown reason. I mean Faraday wasn’t even there at the time, he left and has been in Ann Arbour for 3 years.wow I just contradicted myself.but I guess he asked him before he had left the island, so it could still be a possibility.
Roni- I think you are right on about Faraday and Ms. Hawking, especially given Daniel’s reaction to seeing Jack on the island. Good call.
I still want to know why Daniel was crying when he saw the fake Oceanic flight being found on TV. It was almost as if he was crazy.
AAAAAUUUUGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t wait.
To watch live.
http://pt-br.justin.tv/djtec
FIIIIIVVVEEE MINUTES AND COUNTING!!!!! LOST!!!!!
great episode…more answers….and another one bites the dust!
Jason- You are back!!!! Today I am on the Pacific Coast so I still have to wait a few hours.
Okay… amazing episode and it looks like the fun is really starting to being…
but…
anyone catch the tiny little “what did you see?” clips in the commercials??
i saw…
1. men carrying a casket
2. two people saying “i do” at a wedding
3. a young man surfing
4. a 2-3 month old fetus
5. kids being let out of school
is this connected to lost? what does it all mean?? ahh!!
Ross- I saw the “what did you see” clips too, but I could not tell if that was related to Lost or not.
I want to wait until the folks outside the US see the episode before I commeent, but I will say that we got some answers, but not a lot.
SPOILER DO NOT READ IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW.
First- Faraday can’t be dead. if the island healed his mind wouldn’t it heal his body…. Also he and Sawyer haven’t made the video with Dr. Chang yet from comic con…..
Second- It was nice to see jack find his pair and start taking some leadership.
Third- Do you believe Eloise wanted Jack there to maybe save her son that’s why she told him it was his destiny???
Finally- Hurley’s little clips last night were great. I’m glad he’s still there. It feels like it’s starting to pick up speed again. I can’t wait for next weeks.
On the Letterman piece Matthew Fox says the cliff hanger will be more intense and a lot of people will be anxious for the next season…..
Hi Guys, hope you’re all doing well!
This episode was really good but a bit head wrecking. Is daniel dead? With the glassy eyes at the end and the dodgey bullet wound it looked like he was definitely dead but doesn’t he have other things to do? Like convince Chang and make the video?
I’m surprised at how messy sawyer and Juliet let things get. Sawyer is supposed to be a great con man and he and juliet have kept up cover stories and integrated themselves for 3 years but they seem to ‘forget’ to come up with a reasonable excuse for bens disappearance or figure out what to do with Phil? He came to talk to sawyer, sawyer could have spoken to him or lured him outside of dharmaville? Or SOMETHING! Punching him and stuffing him in a closet seems like the way to go if you’re looking for a quick getaway but they don’t seem like they wanted to go and they have nowhere to go!
I was a little disappointted but tonights clue-daniel comes clean with what he knows about the island. He didn’t come all that clean! And is he supposed to have been sick up until he came on the frieghter?
I think eloise might have bought into that cult obey the island thinking that the others seem to have. Remember whn Mikhail shot the girls in the looking glass? One of them said when you start questioning things it all goes wrong, he agreed and killed her. I guess asking questions is bad so you should just do what you’re told.
How come eloise is off the island? And making no attempt to get back?
Juliet seems very insecure about sawyer? I guess she feels kate is his big love and she had him while kate was gone or something. The love square thing seems to have come to an end, jack doesn’t seem interested in either juliet or kate!
I’d love to know what sawyer meant when he asked miles is he still crazy about faraday!
So i’m guessing the incident everyone refers to is the energy release at the swan? Interesting to find out that pushing the button wasn’t just a fools game.
I think we all guessed widmore wa sdaniels father a while ago, i’d love to know what happened there. How old is daniel? Should he be born in 77? We know widmore was banished for having a child with an outsider, how would eloise have left?
THIS CAN BE SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED YET
RICHAR, I thought the same thing about Daniel. He didnt make the video with Dr Chang yet so how can he be dead?
But as soon as he was shot, I knew it was his mother that did it. My only questions are, 1) Why was Richard telling him that Ellie wasnt there, when she clearly was? and 2) why would Daniel go into the Hostile camp armed and hot, the way he did. If you were just looking to talk to Ellie, you go in reasonably. If he was looking to get shot, you go in aggressive and start threatening the leader.
This can only lead me to believe that Daniel planned to be shot, and that he isnt dead, but just taking the next step in his necessary process of things that are supposed to happen.
Agree?
Also, TOTALLYLOST, I was on vacation in NY/NJ visiting family. Luckily it was the same week that Lost wasnt on, so I didnt have to miss it.
I assume that this is why dr chang kicked out miles and his mother? To get them to leave before disaster struck, so surely daniel will have to convinve them of it?
Also regards the beach vs the sub, i think the did mean the beach they originally crashed at. They have nowhere to go, might as well go to where they are familiar with.
I’m also wondering while eloise pushed daniel so much into his science? Correct me if i’m wrong but he didn’t really accomplish anything so i’m assuming he has something that will be very important for him to accomplish and thats why eloise pushes him?
Oh yeah, and someone first called it on this website about Widmore being Daniels father, so I couldnt take credit for that, but whoever it was that said it, I did agree with that person from day one
great episode,
we finally got some things confirmned, and I was right about Widmore being Faradays father, Yeah for me!!
Something that I can’t stop wondering about is what Ms Hawking said to Penny in the hospital. something like, this is the first time when I don’t know what is going to happen next, reguarding Desmond pulling thorough. So I’m thinking that something has def changed this time around. like maybe they can change the future. I mean Faraday seemed convinced when he got back from Ann Arbor that you can change things, seeing as how he wanted to try and stop the incident so that the swan wouldn’t be built and oceanic 815 wouldn’t crash. I wonder what changed his mind ?
Lolo,
I would think that Ellie pushed Daniel because she knew that eventually he would save the island or the people on it. After all with out all this time travel and other knowledge he wouldn’t have been able to convince Chang to evacuate the island.
I don’t think Daniel is dead, like other people have said he still needs to create the video with Chang etc. and besides shooting somebody seems like a very bad way to try to kill someone, ex Locke shot by Ben and lived, Ben shot by Sayid and lived.
Possible spoiler,
during the previews for next week it shows Jack and co. in a place that looked similar to the temple maybe they bring Daniel there similar to what happened to Ben.
Oh and it was so nice to finally see some kind of action from Jack, I like him and Kate working together. someone said before that Jack doesn’t seem at all interested in Juliet or Kate, but I think that whatever happens he will ALWAYS have Kate’s back.
and I don’t like the whole Sawyer and Juliet thing, what the hell is that all about? I mean they do know that the purge will happen and everyone will die, how long did they think that they could go on like this, they’re all pissed off that the ‘06 came back and are blaming them for all the things that are going wrong, I mean were they expecting to die? I thought Sawyer has always said that he will find a way to survive. their relationship is pissing me off!!!
Oh Jones, good idea,
wouldn’t that be cool if they took Farady to the temple like they did with Ben and he becomes a hostile. maybe that’s the real reason why Eloise wanted Faraday to get to the island, because she was a hostile and remember what Richard said to Kate and Sawyer about Ben that he will always be one of them, so I’m assuming that if they do the same to Faraday that he will always be one of them too.
Daniel is definately NOT dead. Now, Ellie may think that he is dead which may explain her “sacrifice” speech when she slapped Widmore, but he is not a gonner. Besides, he was way down on the deathwatch list.
How did widmore get to LA so fast?? If he had been there when Ben called him to say he was going to kill Penny, he would have sent some goons to stop him, or at least get him after.
LoLo- Great point about Sawyer being kind of dumb with putting Phil in the closet instead of luring him outside, etc. Also, why did Radzinsky just “barge” into Saywers house after the shootout, and let him wander down the hall to find Phil. Come on Sawyer!!! At the minimm he should have said to Radzinsky “let’s go find them” and run for the door to get them out of there.
Moohaha- Great point about Daniel intending to get shot, or maybe he knew it would go down that way. She will probably listen to him in a weakened state instead of with a gun in his hand.
Lolo- Also, great question as to why Eloise is not trying to get back to the island. Maybe she is permanently banished like Charles, but supposedly so was Ben but here he is.
My most important question is what would happen if Daniel succeded in detonating the bomb??
Would they all skip back to 2004, or to 2008, would the plane land in LA, would Kate be in jail, would Claire, Boone, Shannon, Echo, Anna, Libby, Nikko, Paolo, Michael and Charlie all be alive? Would they have memories of the island or not. Somehow that does not ring right, and my head is spinning. I guess I need to wrap my head around this thoery.
Once again I felt like there was more story to be told than the time allowed to tell it. I felt like there were big gaps in what we were finding out. What caused Daniel’s memory loss? Was it the time travel that turned his brain to mush or was it the grief that he felt due to what happened to Theresa? Did Theresa have the headaches and the nose bleeds like Charlotte? Is that why Daniel recognized the symptoms? When was Daniel healed? We know he had some memory problems while on the island (they make reference to it when they are jumping from one time to another), so when did the “healing” take place?
How do you guys know that Daniel made the videos with Chang?
so many things i sill don’t understand. def a lot of gaps in the story. why do people allow other people to not tell them the whole story. jack and kate go with daniel but dont find out the whole story. why not say f-you daniel your telling me everything right now!!!
whats up with sun, locke and ben?
is eloise bad or good? whidmore? ben? i’m so confused.
wheres sayid?
wtf is going on.
good episode tho, could have used some more info or explanations of stuff. some of the stuff we figured out we already knew.
Ron Paul Fan, Post 63
I don’t know that it is 100% confirmed, but if you listen to the person’s voice in the background to me it is clearly Faraday.
Just in case we are not talking about the same video, I am talking about the one were Chang says that he is communicating with people 30 years in the future and says that a credible source has told him that they communicate via the internet and George W. Bush is president.
Adam, I am with you. Why didn’t jack and Kate pump Daniel for information, especially given how evasive he was in the future. It is just like Sawyer not asking Kate and Jack how they got back to the island. Instead he acted like a male lion protecting his territory.
Ron Paul Fan –
Here is a link to the video that people are referring to. It was shown at a Comic Con, but many LOST sites are aware of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCVCzplSa6A&feature=related
It was implied last night that Faraday tried the time travel on himself and then on his girlfriend. I assumed something went wrong and that’s why she was in a coma. It would then be assumed that’s why Faraday was excused from Oxford and he has went a little nuts.
It showed Sayid for the next episode so I would guess that would be an answer on “hey where have you been? Hove you shot anyone lately?”
It also showed Ben and Locke so the next episode looks to be a great one…… any chance they’ll just take two weeks off and start season 6????
Here is a link to an interview with Carlton and Damon –
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lostpedia_Interview:Carlton_Cuse_%26_Damon_Lindelof
Based on this one question and answer, it’s hard to know if Daniel is behind the camera of the Comic Con video:
Alex: Moving on to more show, or so to speak, related questions. In the special alternate reality game The Dharma Project from last year. A lot of fans want to know, since basically funding was pulled out of the Dharma project last year, what was going to be the final revelation of The Dharma Project? Since The Lost Experience was about the numbers, and Find 815 was about the fake wreckage, so, what was going to be the final act of The Dharma Project?
Damon: Essentially the whole idea was to signal to the audience that our characters: Jack and Kate and Sawyer and Hurley and Juliet and Sayid were going to end up in Dharma times, and Faraday too, sorry, and Miles of course, strongly imply that our characters were going to appear in Dharma times. So that would be something that would be sort of set up in the Internet experience. I think some people believe that they hear Faraday’s voice in the Comic-Con experience. These events are sort of partially canon but more promotional than they are canon. Giving the audience a sneak peak as to what the season is about.
ooh thanks for the link. I had not seen this before. Yes I agree, that is definitely Faraday.
OMG that video of the guy who took the video of the sneak peak is classic. I’m still laughing my butt off at him running from that show screaming “I’ve got it, I’ve got it”.
Oh that just made my day.
Thanks CanadianBeetle
So is Lindleoff trying to dispute that it is Faradays voice for the sake of leaving it open to interpertation, or is he simply saying that the voice could be anybodys?
Im saying right now that if Faraday is in fact dead, than we, as fans, have been ripped-the-fuck-off!!!
As well as if what Farady was proposing happens, in that they prevent the hatch from being built, and 815 from crashing, and they try to end the show as if none of the preceeding events ever occured, none of the characters ever really met, and it all essentially becomes “reversed” than I will never watch TV again, having been ripped off by my favorite show of all time.
We can only hope that the shows producers do not intend to go this route, as it will destroy all the show has built for the past 5 years.
Ok, Im done ranting for now.
But please tell me most of you agree that if the show does this, then you will feel as cheated as I will.
what I still don’t get is why did Faraday tell Desmond his mother was at Oxford, and when he went there of course we find out he’s not there and neither is his mom, so my question is did I miss the part where Desmond found out Ms Hawking was actually in LA. How did he know where to go?
Also, something I noticed when young Daniel was playing the Piano, there was a pendelum on the piano. Could this be a hint that Faraday actually was the one who designed the Lamp post station as Im sure some have speculated?
My first thought was that he could have been the “mathematician” who designed the lamp post, my 2nd thought, (since he was playing the piano) was that maybe he was the “musician” who programmed the code into the looking glass.
However my 2nd theory doesnt seem as likely as the first, any thoughts?
Biglostfan,
He got the address from Widmore when he went to see him after learning from Teresas sister that he had been funding Faradays research.
Widmore gave him the address and Des took off for LA
Moohaha- I kind of said in Post 61 what you said in post 72. What would happen if Daniel succeeded??? And, I agree with you– If they go the route of the whole island thing never happening, I am so done as well. In fact, I may even go to Hawaii and protest.
Now, was it just me or when Eloise and Daniel were having lunch after he graduated, did the sign on the window look a lot like the ALjira Airlines logo?
Moohaha –
I am hopeful that LOST will end in a way that gives me tears or goosebumps or both! The writers/producers have said that we the viewers, can not possibly know how it will all end, based on what we have seen up until this point.
I do worry though, as much as I love reading other fan’s thoughts, theories, and snippets that they picked up that I didn’t – am I going to be disappointed when a big climax occurs and I had already read something to the same effect?
I would imagine that there are fans (that don’t visit these sites) that gasped at the realization that Chang was Miles’ dad, and yet it has been back and forth on this site since that first scene of Chang waking up in his bed earlier this year.
I have to admit though, I thought that Daniel and Penny would be cousins.
canadianbeetle,
oh yeah dude, someone said it on here long ago that Daniel and Penny were brother and sister.
Just like I said on here weeks ago that I think Juliet is the next to die. She still hasnt had an episode this season, next weeks could be about her. If it is, im telling ya, shes dead. I hope Im wrong though, at least for her sake.
first of all: Thank LOST for Lafleur, he is so HOTTTT !!!!!
great episode!!! excellent one, answered lots of questions! very interesting to see Daniel’s past life and the liaison of his mother and Widmore. Lady Hawking is one big awful ma’am !
however, one big question rises: how is it possible the Dan dies?? that would destroy the what happened, happened theory. Ok he did explain something about the variables and their past being their actual present, but still. that would turn the whole theory invalid…
Thanks Moohaha for the reminder, I can’t believe I forgot about that.
and I’m with you guys I hope this show ends well, If this ends up with them all waking up from a dream or they do go back and figure out a way to change all this so that none of it happens I SWEAR YOU WILL HEAR ME SCREAM FROM WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD!!
and Moohaha you might be right on with the whole pendulm thing giving us a clue that Faraday was the mathmatetion, but I think they were showing us that he already had some sort of gift for math like he was a little genius or something of that nature. Oh crap just had a thought. what if Faraday was also born on the island into the hostiles camp and he was “special” as Richard had thought perhaps John Locke was. And he left with his mother but the island needed him back as he is a hostile and always will be one of them.
I am super glad though that they explained why he was crying while watching the 815 fake crash.
But Karen remember that Faraday said we can all die. that they are in their present, he did make a big point to explain that. and he obviously knows whats going to happen. I hope he’s not dead but Ms Hawking sure was pissed at Widmore for making a way for Faraday to get back to the island, but remember she told Penny that she doesn’t know how things are going to go anymore. Maybe somehow Faraday has already changed the events that are going to happen.
Oh and Karen
I Agree LaFleur, Sawyer, James, Jim whatever is SUPERHOTTT!!
I think he needs to loose his shirt again for a few more episodes!!!
Why Faraday was so surprised to see Jack and Co. back in 77 and so sure concerning his mother being wrong about Jack? Dis he realize that something had been changed?
Could he see flashes from the future and mind travel to the past like Desmond? Surely yes.Thats why he was crying watching the O815 crash?
Maybe he realized you cant change the past, but being them the variables in that past and being them in their present, they can change their future…
By the way, if Widmore and Hawking have blue eyes, shouldnt he have blue/green eyes too? And british accent?
Jack will be in charge from now on, and probably try to continue Dan’s plan to explode the bomb. Like already said, can they erase all the chain of events that happened and led them to the island? Isnt it the major paradox?
Are we finished with Desmond’s story? I hope not! I guess he was not been well explored this season, for he is always so great.
So Ms. Hawking always knew she was going to kill Faraday ?If he is dead…
Did she make him go to the freighter to fullfill that destiny? Or to try and change it?
She could easily avoid him from going, as he didnt want to.
Maybe the others save dan so he will become one of them !
I’m sorry guys but the writters just released a statement saying that Faraday is indeed dead, although we have seen people die and they either come back to life (Locke) or we see the dead again, hence Christian, Charlie, Boone, Shannon, well theres just too many.but his status has went from full time to possibly guest star.
BigLostFan #85
Link?
It’s episodes like this that keep me watching! There’s a real sense of events getting dangerously out of hand and the whole situation snowballing…
Although if Faraday is now dead (and I still think we’ll still see him in flashbacks performing experiments on himself and Theresa) the way he went out was disappointingly out of character.
The Daniel Faraday I’ve been watching for the last two seasons was a mild-mannered physicist (by the way, I loved Radzynski’s line, “I’ve been shot by a physicist!”) and wouldn’t have gone strutting into The Others’ camp waving a piece around. It seems to me they were running out of episode time and had his mum kill him quickly (for the shock ending), but in a less-than-believable way.
And anyway, what about Richard Alpert? He didn’t claim to recognise Faraday when he bust into the camp, but how do you forget someone who appears in the nineteen fifties, tells you he’s from the future to defuse your H-bomb and then vanishes into thin air, especially someone as distinctive as Dan?
Right on Scoppie,
Why the hell would they strive to make him such a big/mysterious character, ahve him finally evolve into a major player of sorts, then disappear, come back for one ep, then get smoked? That sucks. He should have plenty more interesting parts to his backstory that would be of value to the show. I hope he returns in some capacity, but im still bummed to see him killed off so abruptly. Unless it was part of his masterplan, if so, genius.
Time will tell.
Oh, one more thing, I totally thought when penny went in to see Des, that Hawking was gonna nab the kid and run off. Im not sure why, I just thought that Penny was gonna come back and Charlie was gonna be taken.
Biglostfan, Yeah man , post the link if you can, I want to read this about Faraday being dead for sure.
Jonathan, post 83. He was surprised because Jack and co left the island in the present (or future) back at 2008. While Faraday and co started time travelling. See, jack never time travelled, so quite impressive that he managed to go back in time.
My guess is Daniel was extremely upset with Charlotte’s death that he went back with the sbu and then came back – but all in being in the past.
Moohaha – i thought so too! i mean hello, how could penny leave the kid unattended!
I was also disappointed about the way faraday died and Ellie hawking is a sickening bitch, SO unpleasant! i hope she dies painfully
I agree having Faraday die like that is kinda whack. I did like the episode as a whole but I could have used a bit more of the story from Faraday’s perspective. Like what he did when he was gone for three years??? WTF!!
I def need a link confirming his death Cause based on the Comic Con video (which is def him) he must still be alive.
I def thought Hawking was taking young Charlie as well. My first thought was why are you not bringing your son with you after someone tried to kill all of you???
I also think Dan is the scientist who created the pendulum thing.
This is why Ellie Killed Dan….
She knew he was going to go back and try to stop the crashing of 815. For whatever reason she wants that to happen. So Dan has to die. In my opinion her and Ben are working together to get the plane to crash. If that doesnt happen then something else (which we don’t know yet) won’t happen (possibly beneficial to ben and ellie). So 815 needs to get to that island…..Or maybe someone specific needs to get there.
Ben and Ellie are def working together. Possibly out of the hatred for Charles. To me Charles is the good guy here and based on Ben and Ellie previously working together and both of their actions they are the bad guys.
I do wonder what she meant by she doesnt know what is going to happen now
Sorry that might not all make sense
The short clips we saw during commercials are for a show called fast forward. A show by the Lost people also. The premise from what I understand is people black out for a few minutes and see small clips like we did. Those clips are those peoples future and they try to piece together what is going to happen….hence the ” What did you See?”
Adam, you are right.
There is something about the island , wich we dont exactly know yet , that makes people like Ellie, Ben, Widmore sacrifice even their children for…
What do they really stand for??
I ask again, is it genetically possible for Faraday to have brown eyes if both his parents have blue eyes?
you know, the more the time goes by, the more i think that Ellie Hawking is evil and that Widmore is more of the good guy! good observation on Faraday’s eyes not being compatible with Ellie and Charles. I did have a friend before whose mom and dad had brown eyes and she had blue eyes. so guess that could happen.
I am also positive that Dan created the pendulum. and also much and much sure that Ben and ellie are working together, how could them not work together! Ellie has some sort of grudge against widmore and ben came to ellie at the church when she showed Jack & Co. the pendulum
heres the link guys for the writters talking about Faraday def being dead. let me know if it doesn’t work.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/lost-producers-talk-surprising-death/21990
yeah I’m not so sure if Ben and Elloise are working together,remember when Penny asked her if Ben was her son, she had a look of disgust on her face, like she couldn’t stand him. (but really who does like Ben, I guess that’s not a good reason to support my theory).
but I was wondering the same thing, why does he not have an accent, when everyone around him that he grew up with does. and the eye thing, I got nothing on that.
oh and I rewatched the episode last night and someone had asked if while Faraday and his mum were having lunch was the Arija airline symbol was there, and I gotta tell ya it looked to me like just a picture on the glass behind them of an indian temple like the ones in Alladin ( sorry reffering to a disney movie here) but ya know the big builing they have there like the Taj Ma hall. ( did I spell that right?)
biglostfan,
Thanks for the link, I guess that confirms it, although I don’t like it. The only good thing left over from this is that I think Jack and Kate still have Faraday’s journal and hence possible answers (no more of the not asking questions and just going along for the ride anyway). I hope Faradays left over story is told in his journal and that the Losties can make sense of it.
I also just remembered that Miles (and I guess Hurley too) can talk to dead people, so Faradays story may not be lost yet.
Jones that’s excatly what I was thinking. that maybe the reason widmore wanted Miles to go to the island is because he knew also that Ellie was going to shoot Faraday so he brought someone that could talk to dead people like Miles , maybe it’s just a coiencidence that Doc Chang is his dad.
i just remember a funny scene of this episode! Faraday telling Chang about him coming from the future and then saying “Miles is your son” and Chang having a funny/ackward look in his face “IS this true?!” hahahaa – totally unreal!
I cant be sure if Ms Hawkins is really evil.
Maybe she pushed Daniel so hard to study because she knew what was gonna happen to him and wanted him to have the knowledge to change it.
That scene of him on the piano, when she comes crying, maybe is in this context.
We are never sure who is good or bad.
The war Widmore mentioned to Locke.
Could it be the others x the variables?
If yes, where Locke fits in this war, once he is in another time?
Jones, I agree that some of Faradays story will continue, either through flashbacks, or as a spirit or whatever. But I still say it sucks that he died.
I hope they tey to bring back Mr. Eko too.
Based on the article they said he wont be a full-time cast member, so that leads me to believe we will see him again but not much. Almost like Anna Lucia this season.
OK, guys, as usual , thank you all for a lively and informative discussion.
One thing missing (I think — did I miss a post, it’s hard to read all of them) — AFAIK, nobody mentioned something I saw in the credits, in which an actor is credited for playing the “young Charlie”.
Does anyone see where Charlie appears in this episode???
If ms. hawkings knows how to get to the island, i wonder why she doesnt tell Whitmore?
I hate that Faraday is dead…. I thought he would still be there or jack could save him, This season has really made me scratch my head but if they can sew this up I guess it would be awesome.
I have to agree if this is a dream or a reincarnation I will scream louder than biglostfan.
Scoppie I don’t believe Richard Albert met Faraday I thought he only met Locke? Am I mistaken?
Greg,
young charlie is Des and Pennys son. Not Charlie from season 1 Charlie.
Ricahrd77, Richard met Faraday in the Epiosde “Jughead” from the beginning of this season
moohaha,
Are you sure about that? Faraday meeting Richard in Jughead 1954? when he was there I only recall him talking to Ellie and telling her they need to bury the jughead. If I remember correctly while Faraday was talking to Ellie John Locke was talking to Richard and then they flashed out of there.
But I must say when Richard first saw Farady he looked as if he knew him, because Richard is the one who asked Faraday if they had met before. I don’t believe that we ever saw them actually meeting, possibly could of happened and they just haven’t shown us yet.
but then again my memory fades me sometimes:)
brooksj,
I think Ms Hawking wouldn’t tell Widmore where the island is because number 1 she hates him ( obvoiusly from the slap across the face she gave him), and 2 didn’t someone say that ( I think Ben ) once you leave the island you can’t come back, ( Widmore was exiled from the island ) even though Ben did, but he wasn’t told to leave by the hostiles either, and number 3 Ms Hawking knows how to get there so why does she herself not go back? I think there is something to that.
Moohaha I believe I have to agree with biglostfan I think only Locke met with Richard Albert and Faraday was with Eloise at the bomb. But who knows I could be wrong.
Oh my bad
Moohaha was right. Faraday did meet Richard back in 1954, remember when the others had Miles and Charlotte and Faraday in that tent and then Farady convinces Richard that he was in love with Charlotte and that he only wants to help and that he would not blow anything up because Charlotte is there. then Ellie takes Faraday to the jughead. MY bad I’m sorry I admit when I am wrong!
In ‘54, Richard tought Faraday was working for the U.S.army , whose 18 members he had recently killed.
He should have remembered Daniel in 77, how could he forget that weird guy who vanished in thin air back in 54?
My point exactly.
What happened in the fifties had such a strong effect on Alpert that he’s spent the rest of his life (eternal though it may be) waiting for John Locke to be ready to come to the island and lead the others. And presumably it took an enormous effort to follow Faraday’s advice and bury Jughead in concrete (AND he told even-younger Eloise that he was from the future, which presumably she passed on to Richard).
Faraday was such an important part of this time trip I find it very hard to accept Alpert would just forget him like that (although it seems like some of you guys forgot that scene in the tent when he admits his love for Charlotte!), especially as Alpert knows that there are people from the future already on the island following his pow-wow with Sawyer/Lafleur.
Like I say, it all felt a bit rushed – even with the whole “four hours until the incident” McGuffin, Faraday would never have acted that hasty. All it’s really given us, other than Mrs Hawking’s life-long grief/evil mission, is something for Jack and Kate to do.
Faraday’s little speech about the variables, destiny and a certain hydrogen bomb was handily imparted to the crappy couple just before his mum shot him, and my guess is that now Jack will have something to “fix” to get all obsessed about again and Kate will follow him about like a puppy trying to help. Just like old times…
In 1977, when Faraday enters the hostile camp, the younger version of him should be there too!!
He most certainly was born on the island, and if young Charlotte was there with 6 years old, as he talked to her before heading to the camp, and she was around his age, he had to be there.
someone raised a good point. Widmore left the island and hasnt been able to find it ever since. if he really had wanted to, he would have come with the freighter and the expedition !
Ben and Locke both turned the wheel and left the island and as Ben said, it should have been impossible to come back. Thus, they’re both now there!
either ben lied (again) or there’s a discrepancy
Also, what’s with Henry Gale?? how come someone in a hot balloon could have crashed in the island? there haven’t been any developments to that.
I know i said many many times how lame i thought was all this time travelling for the first i dont know 8 episodes. but now i understand! they had to time travel so that we understood all these things. if they hadn’t travelled back in time we wouldnt know about the bomb or Ellie hawking or widmore being a hostile. so, my apologies !!!
- When Faraday is crying while watching the news of 0 815 crash on tv(around minute 16), his hair is really short. After Widmore knocks on the door, his hair is now long as usual. Bad continuity.
– Hawking said to Penny in the hospital that for the first time she didnt know what was going to happen. It means two things.
First, she usually can see the future, so she knows how it should be.
Second, the future was changed.
Knowing that Desmond was special, Faraday used him to change the future by speaking with him in the hatch in the past. Thats why Hawking does not know what will happen. It was not supposed to happen. In the original future, Desmond was not shot.
Desmond only got shot due to the chain of events that took place after Faraday asked him to find his mom. Thats why he was in Los Angeles .Thats why Desmond is special. He is the only one able to travel through his own timeline, so he can change it. There is no whatever happened to him. Thats why he remembered in his present that Faraday spoke to him in his past.The losties on the island flashed/traveled in time to different ages, but never in their own timelines, but in the timeline of the island, and only with their bodies, not their minds.
Hey,
I wanna ask something about the comic con video. Who made this video ? (not in LOST, I mean in reality
) Is it a video that was filmed then presented there ? I don’t get it!
sorry for being that mysterious
what i mean is under what title did they present such a video ?
Jonathan – great point about Desmond changing the chain of events so that Mrs Hawking doesn’t know how things will play out. She said “for the first time in a long time” she doesn’t know what will happen…
Now, presumably she didn’t know what was going to happen when she shot Faraday in 1977, so this gift of foresight she seems to have (remember her selling the ring to Desmond and explaining that you cannot change events?) must have been granted to her in a future episode.
I’ve always thought that Ben Linus was able to see the future, or at least the general shape of it, through his actions and reactions to events on and off the island. But in recent episodes this foresight seems to be deserting him.
Will the incident (if and when it happens) enable both Hawking and Ben (and presumably anybody else in the vicinity when it happens) to see the future, the way that Desmond was able to after he turned the key? And is the fact that this ability is leaving them an indication that the incident was/will be somehow stopped..?
One other thing (long post, sorry), it seems obvious to me that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid were pulled off the plane and back into 77 because they each had to do something back then. So far Sayid has shot Ben Linus, and then Kate was there to save him and take him to The Hostiles – perhaps they have other tasks to accomplish, we shall see. But that leaves Jack and Hurley, neither of whom have served any real purpose.
As I said before, I think Jack will now be hell-bent on continuing Faraday’s theory and trying to set off Jughead to stop EVERYTHING from happening. Personally I think that’s an insane idea, and will not only destroy the island but possibly the fabric of space/time yadda yadda. So it’ll probably be down to Hurley to stop whatever Jack sets in motion and save the universe. Dude.
Acer, about the comic con video,called dharma booth video, check lospedia.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dharma_booth_video
If that voice is not from Faraday, wich is unlikely, the only option i can think of is Miles. Listen again and check it out.The actor who plays Faraday once said that the video we’ve seen is only the half of it.
How did Faraday was so sure his mother was an hostile at that time? When he met her in ‘54 he might have suspected it, but he didnt seem to really know it.
Maybe when he was in Ann Arbour he found out?
oh my god that looks absolutally BRILLIANT!
well how can it be miles, we can hear him crying in the background as a baby. i am still confused about some stuff, it is clear to me that a person is a person, 1 item, so how on earth could have miles see himself as a kid?? that’s totally incoherent. it messed up the whole theory to me.
Jonathan tks for sharing that link though
Karen I know what you mean about the whole a person is a person 1 item thing but say I went back in time to when I was a baby I could still see myself because I couldn’t not exist back then when I did… If you know what I mean. (you probably don’t!)
I’d have to have existed back then or else I wouldn’t now…
OH MY GOD I CAN’T BELIEVE ELLY SHOT FARRADAY!
The weirdest thing is that by wanting to erase their past, the losties will create it.
Advised by Faraday and his journal, i think Jack will try to explode Jughead, in order to destroy the swan , so all the subsequent chain of events that ended with Desmond having to enter those numbers and failing to do so wouldnt happen, so their plane would not crash.That is a major paradox, i know, cause if their plane hadnt crash they would not be there to try and stop it, but thats what they will do.
Instead , i suppose that this explosion of jughead is gonna be the incident itself , and after this incident the swan wont be destroyed, but will require that protocol of entering the numbers on the computers, wich will lead to the events that made them crash on the island.
By the way, Mr. Chang could be alive in present days, couldnt he? We dont know what happened to him. Maybe he left before the purge.
Karen, that comic con video was filmed around ‘78. I was sure it was Faraday’s voice, but he didnt seem to have time to record it. Miles is in the same time as his younger version, we know that, regardless of what believe its possible. So, if it was not Faraday, can only be Miles filming.
JMK, i know i sometimes ask ridiculous questions, SORRY!
the thing is i understand of course only that it doesnt make sense. see, Ben could not go back to 77 because he could’t have met w/himself while a kid. therefore he could not time travel. that was what i meant. In that case, Miles shouldn’t have been able to time travel
First off Sorry I was wrong about Faraday meeting Richard Albert in ‘54. I was completely wrong.
Second I like jonathan’s theory that Jack setting off the bomb id the reason for the protocal.
I thought Ben could go back but for whatever reason the time warp Gods or whichever didn’t let him do it. I don’t think he had a choice.
I do like the previews for the upcoming episode it looks to be great. Locke, Ben and Sayid will all be there.
What I find strange is that Daniel now thinks he can change things yet he still goes to Charlollet to tell her that she has to leave the island. To me this seems to be an indicator that they really can’t change the past.
His whole arugment for “this is their present and thats why they are variables and able to change things” is kind of confusing to me. Take for example Miles, whatever happened to adult Miles should still happen to baby Miles. So since babay Miles is there, to me that should indicate that they can’t change anything.
Also take Sayid and Ben for example. If Sayid had not traveled back in time, how would Ben have been brought to the others and to the temple so that he now will “always be an other”. In that episode we were lead to believe that Ben is who he is today because of the way he was saved.
For some reason, and I don’t know why besides the fact that Daniel told him that the rules don’t apply to him, I think that Des is the only true variable.
I think that all the 815 and freighter people that went to the 70’s always went to the 70’s.
Exactly like Jonathan said in post 127, “The weirdest thing is that by wanting to erase their past, the losties will create it.”
Hi all. I am back. Scoppie- thanks for the laugh in post 113 about Jack having something to fix and Kate following him around like a puppy dog. Too funny.
I wonder what is going to happen to Sawyer, and where was Horrace last week????
Also, I agree with everyone that Faraday’s death was all wrong, and there is no way a “weak” “thin” guy like Daniel would go into the hostiles camp toting a gun like Dirty Harry, especially when minutes earlier he looked scared when Kate handed him the gun.
More to follow . . .
What if the person who creates the video with Dr. Chang is Jack?
I mean the shows creators claimed that it wasnt necessarily Daniel that had created the film with him, and now that he is dead, we are able to assume that Farday wasnt the guy behind the camera, but instead the voice off camera could have just been a temporary filler until the real character meant to shoot the film could be dubbed over.
Maybe I am reaching, but it obviously cant be Daniel shooting the film with Chang now. Or can it?
Also, I still cant believe they killed Farday off like that, and confirmed it. I feel cheated in a way.
also, only 3 more episodes this season!!
Which means we are so close to finally getting the story about the damn statue, as well as finally getting to meet Jacob. (Im telling you though, I have a feeling that its gonna be Jacks grandfather.)
Hi,
I don’t post very often at all, but read the comments posted here all the time. I think there have been some really good theories suggested after this episode.
My thoughts are that Jack & Kate will indeed now try to detonate the bomb – what else are they going to do? They are stranded in time and without allies right now – so having some kind of a cause will be the thing they can focus on. I can’t help thinking that if the bomb does indeed get detonated then that will result in the very thing that Daniel says he was trying to prevent. I think there is some merit to the suggestion that he intended for himself to be shot……he may not have known Ellie (his own mother) would do it, but why would he go storming into camp if all he really wanted to do was talk to the hostiles.
I can see why Sawyer etc wanted to head for the beach, as it is the one place they know they can make sustainable camp and prosper as a small group. I wonder if a pair of our original losties might end up being the skeletons of Adam & Eve in the cave. I think that could work in terms of the timelines involved.
How does Faraday know his mother was with the hostiles when he came back to the island? He didn’t know that when he set sail on the freighter, and during the 3 years (74 -77) he spent at Ann Arbour she would have still been on the island herself – so how could he have become so sure his own mother was a) on the island in 1977 and b) with the others?
Still need to find out where the “what lies in the shadow of the statue” posse fit into the picture. My guess is a previously un-featured group, not aligned to either the others or Whidmore. Could be a Dharma faction though – we’ll see.
Anyway that will do for now.
Regards.
spoiler alert….season ending preview….spoiler
this is on yahoo.com
Lost
Season 5 finale airs Wednesday, 5/13 at 9pm ET on ABC
Charles Widmore told John Locke that a war would take place on the island, and that if John didn’t return, the wrong side was going to win. We’re still a little unclear on who — and when — the sides will be (Hostiles vs. Dharma; Oceanic 6 vs. creepy Ajira survivors; Smokey vs. everyone), but it’s clear that tensions are mounting all over, and will probably culminate in at least one shocking season-ending death. Other intriguing tidbits: The finale will introduce us to Jacob, the island’s spiritual leader, and we’ll see a wedding that takes place off-island. Thump!
1. Faraday- How did he get so much intel on the island from 1994 when he got the journal from mom until he got on the freighter in 2004?? I mean he was basically disturbed when he saw the crash of Oceanic on TV so I am assuming that he was not working on getting details on the island. Was he in contact with someone such that he would know that Desmond was his constant? Did one of the losties bring it forward in time to him, or when Elosie gave it to him it already had data in it?? We only saw the first page so maybe after she killed him she got the journal and kept it until his graduation. Did Widmore, who clearly had enough intel about the island to send the freighter give it to him?? Help!!!!
2. How did Faraday get the welcome picture of the Losties? Was it a fax that he had (I think so), and were there faxes in 1977??? Why would Dharma send fax copies of pictures of new recruits they already know about to Ann Arbor??
One more thing. Has Juliette moved up on the death list with the weepy sad my life is over look she had in this episode??? I remember back in Season 3 in Juliette’s back story that when she came to the Island Harper (I think) or someone said that she looked “just like her.” Is the “her” possibly an aged Juliette in that picture of the blond woman in Ben’s fathers house, which Ben eventually had? We have never gotten an explanation about that comment (among other things), so it may mean that there is more story for Juliette so she may go forward in time and is thus safe. Or, is that a picture of Ben’s mom and has nothing to do with Juliette?? If Juliette is safe is Sawyer higher in the list?? I hope not- He is too cute to be killed. I guess I want to know who gets bumped off next.
Last thing, where is C.P.L., Wolowitz and Jason??? Any insights on this episode? 3 days to go!!!!!
juliette has been my call to get killed for awhile now….she is dead….which is unfortunate cause she has great boobs.
I have been soooo busy these past few weeks…trust me….I feel like I’m left out of all the good conversation that has been going on around here. Also…I bought a sailboat so I have been sailing on my spare time…I know…TMI. But I LOOOOVVVE SAILING!
I agree….juliette is a gonner!….no doubt…and they have eluded to this in this episode with a slight rift in the happy home of her and her man when her man called Kate Freckles……
i do have so many different insights now….its kind of difficult to get them all out…. But for some reason three episodes ago something clicked that….DAMN….I REALLLLLLYYY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!! LOL.
I really think Adam you are on to something with Daniel possible not being the one to die…. With that being said….. he has left a book behind and for all we know it could be Jack who comes up with the idea of the pendulum with the help of the journel.
I hate to see Juliette go because we still do not have all of her story. But, someone has to go, and it makes sense for it to be her as opposed to any of the original O6. But, I would not be upset if it was Miles even though I like him, because he has not been around all that long.
By the way, where is Sun and Sayid??????
Hello All. From the link posted in post #69 Carlton says:
“…we accept the fact that in the end of the day there will, probably, you could ask a spectrum of a thousand different fans “Well what question did you not get answered?” and there might be a thousand different answers, but we are focusing on what we consider to be the main questions of the show and the main narrative. It’s impossible to tie up every loose end, and we don’t really consider, honestly…For us, the focus of the final season really has to be on the main characters and what would generally be acknowledged as the most significant mysteries.”
So personally I’m not expecting I’ll get all my queries answered after this show is over, as to be very true, they cannot tie up all the loose ends. Side effect of the ever thrilling episodes we’ve been getting from them, I guess. They have made it so mysterious, that its even impossible for themselves to solve everything, keeping up the same standard of the show.
5 sneak peeks for Follow the leader.
http://colunas.tv.globo.com/lostinlost/2009/05/05/cinco-cenas-de-follow-the-leader/#more-4303
Totallylost and Adam,
I agree, Ive been saying it for weeks that I think Juliette is done. And yeah, when Sawyer called Kate freckles, in front of Juliette, he fucked up….and he knows it.
faraday is dead though jason…writers did confirm that
Jason,
I’m with you,just when I think I have it figured out, I realize that I really have no idea whats going on. I have been going back and watching some of the past episodes( they play them on scifi channel and G4, here in the US)and its cool cause I’m reminded of things that I had forgotten. At first I thought this would help, but I soon found it only raises more questions and usually debunkes my theories!
But watching these past episodes I realized they have been so focused on showing us the little things that we forget about the bigger picture here sometimes.Like WHY IS ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENING. I’m really beginning to think that this is all some elabrate live action Chess Game.
Adam…good and thank you….
So now another question who the hell designed the lighthouse station and why….Dr Candle I presume…
Oh yea.. I agree too that if not Juliette….Miles is goner…and maybe just maybe…both Miles and Juliette.
Oh and the scene with Faraday crying in front of the TV, I think because he said he was sorry about Theresa and said that he had tested his time machine thingiee on himself first that it explained why his memory had gone bad, I bet somehow he traveled to the future, I mean when Desond met him at oxford he basically helped him with the correct formula and told him somewhat about the future, so after Desmonds visit he had some sort of incline about the future events that were going to happen. Perhaps Desmond had been his constant for longer than we realize. Still haven’t figured out why he called the mouse Eloise, after his mother? is there some sort of connection there with the time traveling thing.
My bet is that Jack and Kate get Faradays Journal, read it and makes sure that Doc Candle sees it and he begins to do experiments to create the time machine. Or perhaps young hostile Eloise gets a hold of the Journal, reads it and this is how she knows whats going to happen in the future. Which makes sense after what she said to Penny in the hospital about this is the first time in a long time that she doesn’t know whats going to happen next–because Faradays Journal only went to as far as he knew. does this make sense to anyone.
Biglostfan,
I get what youre saying. It does make sense. I can see it being a possibility. Very clever thinking. but I think that Eloise has more to do with being in touch with the future in some way rather than just reading it in a journal.
Like how the hell did she know that the window would open and allow the survivors to get back to the island on the Ajira 316 flight?
I like to think she is a naturally wise, not just someone that just reiterates shit she found in her dead sons journal
Hi again,
I posted a few comments suggestions at 134 but so far not a single comment in response. This is not the first time this has happened either.
It feels like only comments from an inner circle of contributors are worthy of acknowledgment.
I am particularly keen to hear any views re my Adam and Eve suggestion.
Andy,
The main reason I think that no one has responded to your post is because a new thread has begun on the next episode.
Usually the commenting all begins in the forum for the new episode, and people stop posting on the old one.
Another reason may be that because that topic has already been debated by most of the users on this site on numerous occasions and it is not a fresh debate that is beginning to come close to getting solved. Sorry if I seem rude, Im not intending to be, but thats the main reason I would assume.
About there being an “inner circle”, this isnt LOST, there are no main characters and redshirts, the only thing I can tell ya is to keep posting. Most of us are posting theories and comments several times a week, so maybe we seem more familiar with one another because we are on morefrequently, but its a public forum, anyone with good theories and ideas is welcome to participate bro. So just keep involved. I think we all enjoy fresh ideas on this forum.
Peaceful