Here are 3 fresh sneak peeks into tomorrow nights episode of Lost – The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham.
The first one looks to be just after Locke turns the wheel. He lands in the Tunisia (written on the license plate), which is the same place Ben landed. Then picked up by a couple of guys in a truck, who apparently are working with Mr. Whidmore, as seen in the next two clips.
Here we see Locke in a car with Abaddon, who informs John he helps Charles Whidmore get people get to where they need to go. He informs John that he is the reason for getting John to the island, and now he’s going to help him do what he needs to do off the island.
Locke meets Whidmore in what appears to be a hospital of some sort. Whidmore informs John that the 06 have been off the island for 3 years and have lied about what happened. He also tells John he’s going to help him get them all back to the island because a war is coming.
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I know there have been many posts about inconsistencies between what we saw John say in this episode, and what Kate and Jack say that John told them. Well, how about this explanation (please feel free to shoot me full of holes if I am totallylost!!). What if after Locke died he appeared a further time to both Kate and Jack as a ghost, where he was more convincing than his lame pitch when alive. Bear with me (and I’ll get to Hurley and Sayid in a minute).
We know that Jack saw Christian at work, which prompted him to ask his partner for a prescription of Clonazepan (I think that was the name), which was the same medicine Hurley was taking at Santa Rosa (when he was friends with invisible Dave). This medicine is for anxiety that is caused by things you see. So John talks to Jack at the hospital, Jack tells him to get lost, and John dies soon thereafter (because he still had fresh car accident scars.) Well, if dead Christian can visit Jack, why not dead John?? Likewise, if seemingly dead Claire can visit Kate, why not John? So John visits both Kate and Jack and tells them more of what happened on the island.
This can account for why Jack was so convinced that “we have to gggggooooo bbbbbbaaacccckkkk.” I know that Ben asked Jack in the hotel room in “Because You Left” if John told him what happened on the island and Jack said no, but Jack could have been lying. It could also be that when John approached Jack as a ghost he told Jack that he would be alive again on the island, so Jack might have figured that daddy would be too, so he needed to go back. It also goes along way of explaining why Kate, who was like “hell no I am not going back” at the marina, suddenly got rid of Aaron and was gun-ho to return.
Now Hurley and Sayid. Hurley has seen Dave, Jacob (at the cabin), Charlie and Anna Lucia for sure. He’s a regular ghost buster. When Sayid came to get him at Santa Rosa in “There is No Place Like Home part 3” Hurley was playing chess with Mr. Echo (remember, “checkmate Mr. Echo”). Sayid said that Benthem died 2 days ago and they said it was suicide. Hurley said, and this is very telling: “Dude, I’ve been having regular conversations with dead people . . .” Who knows with whom and how many, but enough said on Hurley.
Now, why was Sayid there? We know that he was in the Dominican Republic, so something drastic had to have happened in a seemingly short period of time to get him to come back and head straight for Hurley (not Kate or Jack, mind you) and have the need to get him to a safe house. Maybe John told Sayid that Ben killed him and was out to get Hurley, but Hurley would not listen to him because Hurley is crazy? After all, Sayid did see a water logged Walt in season 2 just before Anna Lucia killed Shannon, so he can see a ghost. He also told Hurley not to trust Ben and do the opposite of whatever he tells him.
Well, BS?? Maybe, but it could explain some of this apparent inconsitencies. I guess I don’t want to think that our careful and brilliant lost writers could make a big mistake like this.
OK….It did look like the or (a) landing strip…Excellent Observation. you all! Don’t know the significance…..
Thats all im saying….what is the significance of it??? nothing in my opinion…..dont think it matters that the plane is on a runway or in the trees. it just doesnt matter. there are a lot of things that have happened we never have had answered or clarified from previous seasons.
things that matter
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why did kate leave aaron
whats the smoke monster
why does richard not age
who is the guy who does the math eloise hawking is talking about
things that dont matter -
if the plane is on a runway or not.
as far as being in different times i just dont think there is enough to be 100% accurate about it. i think jack, kate etc are at the same point in time as locke, ceasar etc.
but your right…we will see. its all guess’s at this point.
What we actually know about The Dharma Project?
I really have great expectations to finally know something about who or what The Dharma Project was and what happened with. I think is clear that the island time is stabilize in the “Dharma domination time”. (Jin and Faraday are there) and, in fact, this season starts in a Dharma time. (maybe as a clue for the rest of season), showing his scientist chief (I don’t remember the name right now) taking care from a non-Asiatic baby (Charlotte, I guess) and colliding with Daniels Faraday. And after, the season never come back to this time. The flash leaps goes and back before and after..
We actually knows anything about Dharma project? I remember the childhood Ben’s episode that explains The Dharma organization purge.. (I would like review but I don’t remember which episode was, please could you help me?). I am really obsess with.. What more do you remember about Dharma initiative?
Now, it is near-clear that Widmore and Ben are both from the others (and that right now it appears just a leadership war… but then, who is Richard? The eternal second one? It doesn’t seem..)
It seems (some clues have giving in this season) that Dharma Project was a US army secret project. (I would love a typical cold war plot with Mr. Hoover mixed in )
Mctama, this video will answers some of your questions about dharma. The important part is where Alvar Hanso appears. Its from Lost Experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub0TX-QOuHs&feature=related
hey guys,
I wonder if it is possible that the main island and the second island are in a different time period? When the island disappears in the final of season 4 it was only the main island, or at least they showed only the main island! whatever…
About the island people and the time……i think the 06 are like the losties on the island in the same time. Because everybody is fine again, the nosebleeds are gone and that was the case. Now after a long time all of the losties are togehter again! In which time they are all..we´ll see. I have no clue because when i saw the trailer for next week episode, Sawyer…were in a group wiht Ben…, Ben is wright now on the second island and nobody knows in which time. But how it looks…the same!
I think the people on both islands are in the SAME Time period, that would make the most sense and any other way would be too complicated!!!!
…however, we´ll see…
LOST REVIEW ALERT ALERT………HOOOOLLLLYYYY CRRRRRAAAPPPP!!!!!!! EVERYONE YOU WON’T BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!! PLEASE WATCH IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO OR OWN THE DVD!!!!
I was watching the season finally of Season 1….last night. I started over about 3-4 weeks ago… at anyrate if you all remember the scene when Locke is being pulled be the Smokie and Jack and Kate try to save him. Well, Jack is holding on to him while Smokie is trying to pull him down the abyssal hole and Locke is telling Jack to let him go it’s alright…. What happens next Jack yells at Kate to get the dynamite… Kate runs and gets it etc etc…you all remember this scene right????? HOLLLLLYYY CRRRRAAAPPP! Well here goes….right before Kate throws is Locke says….”Don’t you’ll blow up the temple”.
Now the word “Temple” goes so fast….please if anyone else has the ability to watch this please watch it and let me know I am not crazy here and this is what I’m hearing instead of wanting to hear. I put it on the subtitles of course “temple” did not appear…. But this isn’t the first time captions have not matched what has been said…
Now if he did say this…of course….this may not be of any reaaaaall significance…but then again…there is a possibility it could……….
Mctama, here goes the purge and something else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwNGC30IqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoI9OxYPuyA&NR=1
jason….damn..think you are right!!! just watched the scene again and i heard too something like “don´t you blow up the temple”..!! But however, why did Locke never go to the temple at least on his own to see what he was obviously knowing, or just find out the truth????
Man I have know idea…..lol.
thanks jonathan!
Totallylost,
your last theory does seem like a bit of a stretch, but it is interesting nonetheless, and well researched. Hats off to you.
good one there! maybe writters do know what they are writting about and not coming up with it after every season. tks for that !
one more thing: I really thought it was stupid of the writers to kill ana lucia, she was a very interesting character (well, when the show was still interesting…). I really REALLY hope that they will make her come back somehow.
Jason,
Im def. gonna go home and take a look at that scene today, but if that is what he said, then why, like CPL mentioned, had he never gone back to that cerebrus vent and try to get in? Its interesting because they may be able to work in what they are doing now on the show, with the fact that Locke had previously known about the temple, I dont know, its weird.
VERY GOOD PICK UP though!!!!!
Thanks Moohaha!!!
Jason–Wow– I think you are right. And, you are probably not any crazier than the other posters on this sight!!!!
jonathan,
is it reliable? Do you know which is the film’s source? it comes from lost producers or it is just a fan’s joke?
anyway, it is very interesting! thanks a lot.
JASON
If the word temple has disappear on the official DVD subtitles (and the word was really there)
The conclusion would be
that it was a writers’ (significant) mistake.
Mctama,” The Lost Experience was an alternate reality game that was part of the American television drama Lost. The game was developed by ABC in the United States, Channel 4 in the UK, and Channel 7 in Australia. It was written by Jordan Rosenberg[1] and created by the agency Hi Res. The experience played out during Lost’s second season in the United Kingdom and during the summer break in the United States until the launch of season 3.[2] The Lost Experience, which was announced by the United Kingdom’s Channel 4, Australia’s Seven Network and the United States’ ABC on April 24, 2006[3] and began in May 2006, used websites, voice mail, television and newspaper ads and a novel to give players clues to the game. The Lost Experience ended on September 24, 2006.[4] Damon Lindelof has verified the canonical status of The Lost Experience and the information provided therein.[5]
ABC Entertainment’s senior vice president of marketing, Mike Benson, described the game as a hybrid between content and marketing. This type of marketing was previously used by ABC for Lost’s premiere in 2004. ABC created a website for the fictional Oceanic Airlines, the airline of the plane that crashed in the show’s pilot episode” – taken from wikipedia.[6]
at the end of hanso’s speech he says Namaste…which is the title of an upcoming episode….
dont know if it means anything
Namaste is Hindu for “I bow to you”
jonathan,
I have rambling all around this sites and films, it’s amazing! sorry but I just watched the episodes. I am too old for those new marketing ways.
and yes, NAMANTE!
I was not in mistake, writers will begin to show pieces from the Dharma Initiative time soon.
Dr Chang says it at the end of his Dhama videos and I think when Ben (Or Juliet, i’m not 100%) arrived on the island there was a big Dhama sign saying ‘Namaste’.
Any theories on who this weeks episode is about?
Sawyer possibly?
I was watching again ”because you left” – season 5, ep. 01 – and in the begining, when dr. Chang is filming his orientation film, the cameraman looks like Sawyer!!!
They show quickly the cameraman many times, what is suspicious, but we cant be sure , but that could be possible, maybe when Sawyer went back to Dharma iniciative time, like Jin.
To see…
The girl with the Hood over her head obviously has to be Sawyers baby mama! It just makes sense. And again it’s unpredictable. I guarantee i’m right. watch!
Jared is making GUARANTEES over here!
Thats a bold statement considering she would have no significant reason to be there, but its interesting nonetheless. I gotta give you points for creativity, but I dont think its her, but we will see in a few days.
jared- i thought maybe his kid but wasnt sure how it fit….i feel the same if it was the babies mama. he does look shocked when he sees. we’ll see.
the episode has to do with a lie sawyer tells or perpetuates to save everyone. it was on wikipedia. said something to that effect…
One other thing I would like to share….
What pisses me off is that Kate “married” some cop under a fake name in Florida, and now that she is back, has this guy even tried to find her, considering she has been all over the news and such.
I doubt it is that important of a storyline to re-incorporate, but I just thought it was lame that she left this guy so abruptly, and he hasnt shown up at her door looking for an answer. Especially after Im sure he found the pregnancy test she had taken (regardless if it was negative or not) and left in the trash.
I dont know, maybe Im thinking about this shit too much anymore and l even look to in-depthly into the small stuff.
Oh, one more thing….
I also read who is in next episode, my old boy Horace Goodspeed is gonna be back. So this indicates that the Island Survivors ended up in a time period that was at least 12 years or more in the past.
This may have been covered but I hadn’t seen it.
Widmore told Locke that he was the leader of the others for 3 decades before he was tricked off the island. But in the episode when Locke met Widmore it seemed he answered to Richard Albert.
he also said he ruled peacefully but wasn’t he the one who killed the other giving information to Sawyer, and Locke?
Richard, if Widmore leaded the island for 30 years , as he told Locke, shouldnt Penny been born on the island?
The war he was talking about could be the purge?
I think namaste is how dharma greeted each other.
What if on island after the last flash 3 years or a significant amount of time has passed to the present day? Ie the last flash landed the losties in dharma time and now a large enough amount of time has passed for them to become integrated into dharma.
In the clips for la fleur it looks like the hostiles are killing two people(possibly dharma) who are having a picnic? Sawyer seems to recognise the woman who has the hood over her head. Could she be his mother?
Jonathan very smart about the war and the purge!!!
The purge seemed to be the end of a few altercations between dharma and the others, and was one incident where dharma were unable to fight back. I’m not sure if this counts as a war but its possible, maybe widmore wants the outcome changed so ben never becomes the leader?
I refered the purge because i suspect that Sawyer , Faraday, Juliet, Miles, Jin, Kate, Hurley and Jack went back to dharma days, and the time stoped there and wont move again, as Locke turned the wheel.
I might be wrong, its just a guess.
I think you’re right about dharma days, in my mind the purge was an extermination, not a war but you could be really on to something.
I’m not sure that Locke and the new flight survivors have gone back in time also? If they had surely the hydra station would have been in use. Widmore did say Locke was needed on the island as the war was coming but i suppose he may or may not have known what time locke was going to land in?
I’ve said it before but I think everyone is on the island at the same time period. It is probably back in time but I think they are all at the same point back in time.
Adam that makes sense and would be what i buy except for the hydra station is currently abandoned. They only left it after Bens surgery so if they have returned to dharma times then the station should be occupied
I’m wondering if the woman who ran off with Lapidus was Sun and why she, Sayid, Locke and Ben weren’t taken off the plane and plonked by the river like everyone else? Could the island/Jacob have wanted Ji Yeon and not her? She was pregnant with Ji Yeon when she left, amybe she was needed to return also?
Lolo,this is a deleted scene of season 3, where they show the office that Ceaser was in on hydra station.
It was used by Ben.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER_oRayvuYI
Maybe, just maybe, Ben and Locke couldnt come back straight to the island because they turned the wheel. Ben once said that the one who turns it cant come back, well i think he said it. So they went back to that other island. Just stretching a bit too much, i know.
Quite sure the woman who left with Lapidus is Sun.
I agree with you Lolo, it wouldn’t make sense if the islands were in the same time. I’m thinking that the war will be between the new losties vs the orignal losties.
LoLo hey there, I do have to believe the one that left with Lapidus would be Sun. I don’t fall into the theory that the two islands are in different times. I can’t see that making sense.
I could see the ones on the current time going back however to stop something from happening and the ones that are in the past trying to stop them. remember there is a way to go between Ben has said the “Box” you can have what you desire and the time portal worked before Ben blew a hole in it.
BTW The one in the sack, my bet is on Penny but I’ve been wrong before ie: abaddon.
Richard – I wondered if it could be Penny in the sack (could be her hair!), but I think Sawyer knows the person and he hasn’t met Penny……….. has he?
Sorry guys i didn’t mean i thought the islands were in different times but the people are. It was only ever the losties who were moving through time, the others never did. I think when the flash happened Jacob grabbed Jack, Kate and Hurley off the plane and maybe Sayid back to the time where the rest of the losties are. I don’t know why he would have left Ben, Sun and Locke. Maybe it was the life of ji yeon that would have been within sun when she left but isn’t now? I guess he didn’t want Ben back, when we see last saw Christian Shepard he didn’t seem to like Ben very much. Locke was dead until after the plane crashed so maybe Jacob didn’t recognise his life as one to grab from that??? So i guess that the new plane group are in the present say.
Widmore told Locke to get back to the island because there was a war coming so the war should be in Lockes time, ie present day? I really like the idea of it being the purge
Could the girl in the sack be this amy we’ve heard is joining the cast? Sawyer definitely seems to recognise her, but i can’t think who he might know on dharma who is a bit older except his mother.
I think this is all about having faith. every time someone loses their faith, something bad happens to them. I also think that the fued between Widmore and linus has to do with a woman. I believe that Widmore, Linus and Ms Hawking are all trying to keep the island safe. they all want the same thing. I think that Jacob got mad at Ben and wanted him off the island because he is doing things his own way to make them happen and not having faith to let them happen naturally.
also some interesting simularities between lost and the Bible, Jacob had 12 kids the last son born to him was named Benjamin, 2 episodes ago the title was 316. John 3:16 states , for God so loved the world he gave his only begotton son, and those who believe in him shall not perish but have everylasting life. Aaron had a half brother named Moses Remember that story? Moses was going to be killed so his mother put him in a basket and sailed him down the river only to be raised by another mother, one of great wealth. and not to mention all the angels that helped these people succeed in their journeys. I think that Richard and the other others are sort of like protectors, like angels. guiding people to where they need to be, lke Abbanon told Locke that he helps people get where they need to go. these are just a few. if you look closer there are many more stories.
biglostfan – the title of this episode was not chosen by hazard
I dnt believe its all bout faith but i do believe u r on the rite track with certain people helping others get to where they need to go…after seeing “LaFluer” i hv so mny thoughts…i believe lock is now just as important as jacob, as they both arrived to the island dead n r now very much alive…the statue that we seen fully constraucted for the first time has got me thinkn. It showed a pairs of ankhs hangn by its side which is the same symbol that was hangn round Pauls neck (the DI guy that got shot)…It just happens to also be the Egyptian symbol for life…The name Horace also ties in, change the spelling to Horus n u hv the Egyptian Sun God…The statue could be a couple of things but i believe its RA the hawk-headed major sun god that spent so much time in other forms that he let others rule his place…Did u notice the name RA which just happens to be the initials of Richard Alperts…
Im very curious as to whom the baby that has survived turns out to be, was this the first birth on the island?? Maybe things with pregnancy n birth happens a little later done the track as Juliet wasnt brought to the island until years later to help with this problem…
Also i was wondering why did Ben convince Locke not to kill himself n then did it anyway it made no sense to me, but now does. Jesus had to die to be resurrected, but suicide is a mortal sin…Also Ben was never too sure how to get bk but once Locke mentions the name Eloise Hawking, Ben does wat he thinks he has to do…
I am loving Lost at the moment so mny twists n turns i can barely keep up…lol
‘lost’ is the most amazing film i could have ever seen in my life.