Will the Island Bring Locke Back to Life?
I for one hope that by bringing Locke’s body back to the island he will NOT magically jump out of the coffin and start playing backgammon again. However, I’ve started watching Lost again from the beginning just to see if I pick up on anything that I’ve missed or forgotten.
In part 2 of the pilot Claire mentions that she has not felt the baby (Aaron) move since yesterday (the day of the crash). Baby’s normally kick and move and all that good stuff, but Aaron is either being lazy and sleeping for 24 straight hours or he died in the crash.
Later on in that same episode Jin is making some fish and he wants other people to try it first to make sure its not poisonous. Hurley declines, but Jin is able to talk Claire into trying it. Not 2 seconds after she puts it in her mouth and swallows, she instantly feels Aaron start kicking. Could it be that the fish she ate which came from the island brought Aaron back to life?
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35 Responses to “Will the Island Bring Locke Back to Life?”
Good point you bring up. I was not thinking of the fish though.. I thought did the island by itself bring the pregnancy back to life, or as you sy AAron back to life. You never know it could be the fish, but I do think it makes me feel like there will be a Locke resurection..
That is a good point, I’ve been watching the episodes over again because my husband never seen it, he got into Lost this past season, so she watch season 1 thru 3 and he enjoyed it, that that is a good one about the fish with claire.
scott -
I heard that they released like 10, 1-2 minute unseen clips? My cousin said he found them on youtube.com but i cant seem to find anything other than some stuff thats clearly not new. he said they were from all the seasons and some are pretty helpful….
any idea what he’s talking about?
thanks
Hey
I haven’t heard anything about new clips yet. If you find them definitely let us know and I’ll post them.
Your talking about the MOBILE EPISODES THAT WERE RELEASED.
yes they were first released to verizon customers i think but ended up being on youtube…..i could be very late to this party cuz im not sure when they came out. I just heard about them. so i was wondering.
shehzad - know where i can find them or what i have to put into youtube to get to them?
thanks
Ah yes the mobisodes..
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=lost+mobisodes&search_type=&aq=f
thanks.
just watched them. didnt really get the importance of some of them but some were cool. who was that old lady with juliette and what was in that envelope? what do they know about walt that we dont?
The old lady is Amelia….
The theory is the writters threw the lady as an omage to Amelia AirHeart… She was also in the first episode of season 3 when Juliette was hosting the book reading party…That mobisode scene is before the party.
I have a number of Locke feeligs….
1) Ben actually killed him.
2) He’s not really dead….
3) He will return to the island to be resurrected
4) It’s not really Locke (the writters moved an Island…anything is possible now)
5)…I will think of more as they come…lol.
wow nice scott its its amazinggg
I think what we all want to know is the story of Rousseu and the Blacl Rock, Dont we?
Yeah Ian, as far as the Rousseau and the black rock theroy, we (the viewers) definitley got hosed.
I couldve swore that about a year or so ago, the writers or producers confirmed that we were going to get an episode with Rousseau’s backstory. Im 100% positive they said that.
I remember reading about it in the same article that said the others had a submarine, and that they were going to do an episode with backstory on Nikki and Paulo. So this was sometime before the middle of season 3.
…and both of those other things came to fruition, so where the hell is the Rousseau story. Fuck!!!
i think island can bring back to life or heal people if they are dead or injured off the island. if they are dead/injured on island, island is helpless or something like that. i’m now watching LOST from beginning too.
p.s. were anybody of you play lost expierience game. if were I think we should think about Hanso Foundation and Dharma stations and so on.
p.p.s. did you know that in mission impossible 3 credits there is special thanks for Hanso foundation (check tis: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:On_Screen.jpg) and on cloverfield opening titles there is Dharma logo (check this: http://www.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/6/60/Cloverfield_-_Dharma_Logo.jpg/800px-Cloverfield_-_Dharma_Logo.jpg)
p.p.s sorry for my bad english and (maybe) spam to lostpedia but i think it is very useful website for lost fans
My feeling on this is that the island somehow no longer needed Locke and allowed him to die. Similar to Michael, who was not allowed to kill himself - but then he was told “You can go now” before the freighter exploded.
Jin did not want people to try the fish to see if it was poisonous…he was trying to feed people
Not that it really makes a difference either way, I disagree.
Sun tried to pick the fish up to presumably eat it, but Jin smacked her hand away. Then he went to give it to Hurley and got mad when he wouldn’t eat it and then moved on to Claire.
I think he was making sure it wasn’t going to hurt him or Sun before they ate it.
I don’t know. Wasn’t Jin the son of a fisherman? He should have known what was okay to eat and what wasn’t.
I think he was trying to establish his place in the group. Even though he didn’t speak the language he could provide food, therefore exhibiting his skills.
This was “old” Jin. I don’t think his main goal was to protect
Sun the way “new” Jin does. Slapping her hand away is what you would do to a child, I think he was demonstrating his dominance over her.
You’re right though, it doesn’t really make a difference now. Just fun to debate about while on hiatus.
messeis….
I have to agree with everything you have stated about Jin…
And yes….it is fun.
(has anyone else seen the clip of the “smoke monster” exploding the airplane engine in the very first episode… I thought it was just an internet computer generation when I first saw it…..But I slowed up my DVD player and saw the same thing…wow… check it out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7EJfENg4SA&feature=related
The island demanded that Locke leave the to bring back his friends who had left. The island often requires sacrifices, and this time it was Locke. Of course the Island knew that this would result in his death, but that was the required catalyst to bring everyone back together and in search of the island.
Ian….
but why bring him back???
I have been watching Season 1…(again…geez)…. It has come to my attention a possible over looked theory…. This theory came to me while watching the episode where Boone experienced the killing of his sister Sharon…. It then popped into my head…how many times have we seen people on the island have conversations with someone that they thought was real either with a person in a dream or some shape shifting anomaly that takes on the form of people…or whatever you want to call it. (EXAMPLES: Mr. Echo and his brother…or with Anna Lucia… or Locke and Walt…. or Sawyer and Locke with his “father” (say what you want I just don’t think that was actually Locke’s father)…. Or how about Jack and his father….Do I need to go on here….I think you may get the point)
Eitherway….. for now I am leaning towards that individual in the coffin as being the shape shifting anomaly… at least for now….
Nobody has looked at the importance of the name of Jeremy Bentham that Locke has choosen for himself. Well I googled him and got this about his main theory as a socialist philospher “This means that we ought to judge any action we take, by its utility - in such that we should consider whether it will be useful in bringing about ‘the greatest happiness, of the greatest number of people’ and what the consequences of any action will be. He said that human beings must work out their own morality. He considered that we should base our views on rational evidence and rejected belief in a god. Before he died, he said that he wished his body to be used for medical research.”
So maybe Locke had to kill himself in order to bring safety to the island or to the Oceanic 6, or to unite them and bring them back fro the safety of the island.
The point about himan beings most work out there own morality also plays important in all alot of Losts plot points and general ethics of the show i.e Michael sacrificing himself for penance of killing two people on the island and being forgiven “you can go now” - Maybe all the individuals are being kept alive until they have paid there peneance and solved there own morality issues.
Alex-
The discussion of the real Jeremy Bentham took place on another posting.
What’s interesting is Locke has been set up as “The Man of Faith”. But yet, the writters reference J.B. who discussesthe rejection of God.
Every one keeps going back for the answers. Maybe it’s right there in the season finale. Wasn’t the Orchid station for cloning and or time shifting bunnies? Locke could have shifted back in time from some future point. And now it gets tricky but stay with the logic, if there is any. If he time shifted backwards then in the future when they go to the island he’s still alive because he hasn’t time shifted back yet. Therefore Locke can still be alive, but they don’t have to bring him back from the dead.
how do we know michael and jin are really dead? i mean if jacks father can appear on the boat maybe he could take people with him and so took michael back to the island. and im not satisfied jin is dead, his death was a little boring and sun never buried a body so maybe we’ll find him back on the island when we return in season 5. does anyone know if the actors that play these characters are definately not returning in season 5 flashbacks or otherwise? and will we get flashforwards in the new season seeing as were almost up to date?
There is no way that Jin is dead. I’ve seen enough “tv” people jump off of exploding boats without a scratch to know that. As for Michael, that ones still up in the air. I think that ripple that happened when the island moved was a “wake”. Everything in the water in that ripple moved with the island. And when the island moved it created that purple haze like when the station imploded. When that happened three people should have died, Locke, Eko and for sure Desmond. None of them did. I’m sure they wouldn’t have shown that last bit with Jack’s dad on the boat for nothing. I’m sure Micheal will be back, just don’t know if he’ll be alive or walking dead.
As for flashbacks and flash forwards, they have no meaning anymore. It’s all relative to when the episode is taking place. They are just flashes now. Each episode takes place in two time periods relative to the person featured. If the episode takes place on the island then Locke can have a flash forward/back now. The same holds true for the people off island. It all depends which part of the episode you consider to be the present lol. We know that the 6 have to return to the island, when they get there that will be the present, until then, the story can not stay rooted to the island any longer. Unless every episode jumps 3 months or so island time. Because when they return to the island it will be years after they left. Remember in 4 seasons they have not even been on the island for a full year. Now in one season they have to go through 3 or 4 years. This season will be a drastic change in story for Lost, just hope they don’t F it up. because its going to be really jumping around in time. The island used to be our “constant” and now they are going to take that away from us, don’t know how thats going to pan out. But I’m with Locke on this one, have faith and everything will work out lol.
Good theory
Of course we have to wonder if the island moved at all. When Ben turned the wheel, perhaps all he did was turn the bubble that surrounds the island, so to speak. If there is only a very narrow slit in that bubble where you can get to and from the island through, then maybe he just made the slit move. The island didn’t go anywhere, he just moved the door. Then again the whole island could have been moved half way around the world.
I don’t believe the island actually moved, physically. I think it moved forward in time to about when the show would end, like in the spring of 2010. And time on the island would continue to pass as it has, about one day per episode. All of the “flashbacks” with the people off the island would take place at various points in time between the time the island disappeared to the time the island reappeared. And they won’t be able to find the island until they reach 2010, because it won’t exist until then. And they would be able to bring Walt back with them at his real age, and have him in flashbacks.
good theory Deborah. I really like it and it easily fits and gives solution to problem writers facign regardign walt
Yes when I learned that John was the one in the coffin and Ben told Jack that he must take John back to the island as well, I assumed that was because it would bring him back to life. I’m puzzled how he ended up dead any way. Why couldn’t the island protect him even back in the mainland. Remember Michael, he tried everything to kill himself and nothing would work. First he tried to kill himself in the car and that didn’t work. Then the old guy from the island told him he couldn’t kill himself with the gun to go ahead and try. Sure enough Michael tried but he couldn’t get the gun to fire on him. So why would the island let Locke die. It wouldn’t let him die on the island before. Ben left John for dead but that didn’t work.
Jack also was going to kill himself but go interupted. Maybe the island was stopping him as well.
I for one will be happy to see John back alive. I can’t imagine Lost without him.
I’m not sure the island just moved in time. Widmore knows too much about the island and Ben told him he would never find it. If it only moves in time then Widmore would probably know this. But you could be absolutely right, and yes if it moved into the proper time then the time line in the show would self correct itself. We’ll have to wait and see how long Locke has been visiting people. As for Locke dying, maybe he had to. Or maybe he’s faking it somehow. Locke dying is the only way to convince the rest that they don’t have a choice. They are now being tracked down and killed, if they want to live they have to go back. And I assume when Ben said they all have to go back, he really meant ALL of them. Aaron, Walt, Desmond..everybody.
ive read every comment on here and they all amazing but mostly wrong, has anyone seen the new lost season 5 sneak peak on sl-lost.com, its amazing and clerely shows that the island did move and moved back in time to when the dharma folk were about, please go and watch it if you havnt seen it yet, and you will be amazed, after watching myself i can see how season 5 will be and maybe even a finaly for season 6, the dharma want the folks on the island who are present from 30 years of making that dharma vidoe to carry on the experiments that the dharma folk were doing so they could go back in time and safe all the dharma folk who ben killed, so really season 5 is gonna be amazing and the pruducers no exactly what there doing, season 5 will be great, am sure we will see what happpend to lock how he died ect, we should see him visting walt and the other losties of the island, god i cant wait i really really cant