One of the Oceanic 6 is Dead
SPOILER ALERT. IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN JI YEON YET YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ THE REST.
If you remember my post a few weeks ago, I said that one of our Lost friends would be dying sooner than later. You can check it out here. Many of you thought it was Sun because of her pregnancy on the island, many thought it was Claire because Kate has Aaron in the future. Tonight’s episode revealed the last 2 members of the Oceanic 6 are Sun and Jin. However, Jin’s time off the island is quite limited as we see Hurley and Sun visiting his grave. Did anyone else notice the clue hidden in this scene? Stay tuned for the full episode recap and we’ll take a closer look at it.
So now the question of who dies has been answered, but now the question is how and why he died?
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Jin isn’t dead, he is still on the island. Didn’t you see the date of his death?? 9/22/2004. The date of the crash.
That is why she misses him, he is still on the island. But now the question is why did she leave him there.
Jack - the grave site did say 9/22/2004. However, that doesn’t mean he is still alive. The “oceanic 8″ storyline has not been revealed enough to be clear on what exactly has happened.
What is definite is that Jin is not one of the Oceanic Six. Who is it going to be? Michael? Juliette impersonating someone else? Survivor #17 that hasn’t spoken a word yet?
Im gonna have to agree with Jack on this one…at least thats i understood the scene to play out. if the writers strike would’ve continued, this episode was going to be the season finale… i think he’s still alive on the island and Sun and Hurley visiting the gravesite was her only connection to him. has anyone noticed every flash forward includes a meeting with someone from the other ‘oceanic 6′? coincidence? it seems they made a deal with the devil to leave the island and only the ‘6′ know the truth
Techinically here are a list of names that the show has revealed as off the island and part of the “Oceanic 6″
THESE ARE THE DEFINATES
1) Jack (we know he is identified in more then one episode as an “Oceanic 6)
2) Kate (we know she is identified in an episode as an “Oceanic 6)
3) Hurley (”We know……”)
4) Sayid (”We know……[just incase one doesnt remember he points it out before he shoots Mr. Avellino “)
5) Sun (”We know this as it was mentioned while she was in labor..)
THESE FIVE ARE ALL DEFINATES…WHAT WE DON’T KNOW FOR SURE IS…..THE TWO THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED AS PART OF THE OCEANIC 6 and that is Aaron and Jin…. Leave it to Lost to keep us questioning.
My theory is Aaron is part of the “Oceanic 6″ and Jin is not. If known alive Mr Paik(Jin’s father) will surely send him a message. Ooooor he may be working for Ben as a spy of some sort towards the Hanso Foundation.
I think the only thing you can say for certain about Jin is that the Oceanic six say that he died in the crash. There is a possibilty that he is dead or that he is still alive on the island. I think that the line while they were in the tent making up after their fight of Jin saying he will do everything he can to protect Sun and the baby was a little bit of foreshadowing.
It seems to me that a few couples made sacrifices to leave the island (if we are assuming that they are alive on the island)
Claire was split from Aaron
Jin was split from Sun
And where’s Sawyer? Maybe this was Kate’s sacrifice to come back to the real world
I just didn’t get the flash back or forward with Jin. Why show him with the Panda. Seems like he traveled back in time to change his ways (like he told Sun) I dont think he is dead because obviously at the end of this episode he is in the grave. BUT in the preview of next week they say watch as one person will die….We are all assuming Jin cause we saw the grave but it has to be someone else for that reason….why show us his grave and then say watch next week cause someones going to die. I Gauruntee the next character to die is not Jin. To me it doesnt make sense. I dont know if he dies later or lives on the island but i dont think he is part of the oceanic 6 or is the next person to die. I think it will be another character
i’m not sure if say sayid is pat of the 6 in his episode. i’d have to watch it and i don’t have it anymore. anyways if they didn’t who know if he is part of the 6 cause he’s woking for ben.
I am pretty sure that Jin’s scene is a flashback. When he is asked by the nurse why he is leaving so soon he states that it is not his kid and that he has only been married for 2 months. Also in the scene he is working for Sun’s father.
During the scene of him losing the first cab was when I first thought that it could have been a flashback since he stated that He will find him and rip his head off. I found it kind of off for him to threaten someone like that. Although before that he did seem very happy go lucky to me.
Personally I think Jin is dead during the Flashforward with Hurley, just because Hurley asks should we go see him. I think its another character they are talking about that dies when they are plugging next weeks show.
A couple of things:
1) Wouldn’t Ben be one of the Oceanic 6?
2) The whole thing with Jin’s “flashback” in this episode was just a trick to keep the episode interesting. It was simply not done as well as other episodes.
Alex
Sayid is one of the Oceanic six because he told that one guy he got a large settlement from Oceanic. He is traveling around with his real name.
Oh yeah,
Why didn’t Jack and Kate visit Sun? It’s not like they didn’t have the money.
In the last season it showed someone viewing that Jack had showed up to all drunk. Was that one of the Oceanic six?
The whole thing with Kate and Aaron. Maybe Claire gave custody of Aaron to Kate. He was a couple of years old. It doesn’t take long for a woman to get attach to a kid and to call him son. They never actually said she gave birth to him. Jack doesn’t want to see the baby maybe because he found out he was his nephew and the thought of his Dad cheating on his mom and having a child pisses him off. He does not seem the type to really show affection towards his family.
No, Alex. Ben would not be one of the Oceanic 6 because he was not on the Oceanic flight. He just survived Dharma, and all he got was this lousy t-shirt.
I think there is 5 of 6 of the oceanic six revealed.
jack, kate, hurley, sayid, and sun.
Those are 100%. The last one I dont think is Jin and it cant be Ben or Desmond cause they were not on the 815 flight.(just like juliette)
someone else dies and it is prob claire since her baby is going with Kate. I dont think whoever is not in “the six” are dead. I think they are all living on the island still in the flash forwards. Thats why Hurley in his flash forward tells jack we have to go back. I think kate has aaron because claire is going to die and there really isnt someone left to take care of a baby on the island if you think about it.
OR
Maybe Kate never ever wants to go back to the island because claire is alive there and she stole the baby from her.. maybe thats why she is very happy not having to leave the state and jack doesnt want to see the baby because he knows kate stole him. who knows…just thinking out loud.
I do think we only have 5 out of the 6 (which would leave room for sawyer cuz lock is staying on the island) and someone besides jin dies, my guess is claire at this point.
Well guys what a screwed up episode that was. Whose baby was Jin going to give the panda to(whats the resemblence of the panda?) Why? Why has’t Micheal developed the same symtoms as suicide girl? For myself the oceanic 6 are Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid, Sun and Desmond (to be revealed in a future episode). Also how come Jin’s grave had the same date on it as the plane crass and why were we surcummed to him being on the island for over 100 days. Where’s James?, What’s Miles going to do?, questions I can’t answer, I have seen so many spoilers they contradict each other.
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Does Micheal Know who he is? and where is Walt?
In episode Ji Yeon - Jin is a flashback to the year 2000. When he buys the second panda, the clerk tries to sell him a dragon. “it’s lucky in the year of the dragon” which in the Chinese calendar is the year 2000.
Jin is most likely still alive on the island.
good call martha!!!!
Also - in episode Ji Yeon - we know that it takes place near Christmas 2004 (when Sayid saw the calendar on the boat). Jin’s tombstone date of death shows 9/22/2004 - the date of the plane crash - and clearly he is still alive in December 2004.
Martha is 100% correct…Jin’s centric was a flashback.
With that being said….I feel his scene at the hospital is setting us up as to how Mr. Paik is in the begining stages of developing a working relationship with the Hanso Foundation… In one of the early episodes I think season one Mr Paik mentions a deal gone or going bad with the Hanso Foundation. The interesting thing is when this is happening Lost writters neglected to put in the English captions of this momentary tiraid by Mr. Paik. I dug deep on this info.
Do you people not pay attention? CLEARLY Jin’s was a flashback. when he was leaving the hospital the nurse said something about the baby and he replied “i’ve only been married 2 months.” that and the visit to his grave site marked with the 9/22/2004 date means it is 100% a flashback. Do you all not remember how dedicated he was to his job? they hinted throughout the episode.
Only 5 of the six have been identified. We don’t know for certain that Aaran is in fact Claire’s Aaron (although this is what I assume).
The real world knows the flight crashed and that the plane was found with “all passengers dead.” The true gaps are why Oceanic 6, who is the 6th, why only 8 survivors in the story told to the public AFTER they get off the island, and why the 2 sides (Ben and boat people) are still alive.
Ian, Desmond is not one of the Oceanic 6 as he was not on that flight. In order to be one of the Oceanic 6 you had to have been a passenger on Oceanic Airlines, and Ben, Juliet, Desmond, Rousseau, Ben’s daughter, any people not on the Oceanic flight cannot be one of the Oceanic 6. Please no more suggestions otherwise.
Until I read the dragon thing, and how its really 2000, i thought Jin faked his death and Sun thinks he’s dead. But now, this changes everything. Ben is obviously one of the Oceanic 6 because he was on the island and a bunch of people know who he is. Claire gave birth on the island. Aaron technically wasnt born until after the crash and therefore cannot be part of the Oceanic 6. The reason that Jin’s gravestone said that he died the day of the crash is the whole oceanic eight thing. Because only 2 other people survived but died on the island, at least according to the fake story they had to tell. It only says that he died that day but he probably dies soon or is left on the island. Probably the latter. Also, I think Locke is the last of the Oceanic 6. Remember the funeral that no one but Jack went to at the end of Season Three. It was probably Locke’s. Because even Hurley is part of Locke’s team. And so is Aaron. It could be pretty easy for the creators to break the two groups and make one big one again. And it is just me, or did Ben convince Locke to set him free becaus he knew he would arouse the people and eventually cause a revolution? THIS SEASON IS AWESOME!
I know everyone knew it was gonna be michael on the freighter, but damn, i was still kinda surprised, didnt think he wud get shown yet….
Great season, good episode as well, always nice to use a bit of brainpower….
Ok, seriously, how do you know it’s not 2012 when it’s the year of the dragon again (is this right?) and Jin’s flash forward is even farther ahead than Sun’s? Or it could be her second baby. I’m hanging onto the hope that he faked his death and the September 22nd date on the grave was… well. I don’t know. But these writers are super tricky.
Oh yeah, and as for the married for two months
a. he could be lying
b. he and Sun split up, or
c. Sun thinks he’s dead and he gets remarried. Illegally.
Well I believe Sun had a flash forward and jin had a flash back. Sun was in labor the whole time so yeah, flash forward. But in Jins he was trying, very hard i might add, to find a stuffed animal for one of Mr. Paik’s friends. He said he was married for 2 months, after 2 months of being married he would be working for mr paik and would be going through all that to make him happy.
I dont believe Jin gets off the island. I believe aaron is the last of the oceanic 6.
Also next thursday they say SOMEONE dies. Since this week they said jin dies (on the tombstone apparently) I dont think jin will die this week. I mean, you know the lost writers. Would they say someones dead (like jin in this case) and then kill him next week?? They are more twisted and clever for that
I gotta agree the panda episode seems to be a flashback instead of forward… But if that’s the case, it’s a pretty low blow… If they’re going to start going back and forth between flash forward and backward, they can do anything… This doesn’t qualify as a “twist” in my book because the story doesn’t actually twist at all… It’s just a very straight forward plot line exposed in a way that tricks you into thinking it’s something else. That’s why I’m hoping there’s more to it than a simple flashback. If not, this episode is total bullshit.
Hey guys,
Can someone say something about the rings?! I think it made the episode a lot more confusing. I don’t know if that ring the nurse was holding talking to Jin was Sun’s that she took off. That would make the episode even more confusing. I’m sticking to my original theory that Sun’s was a flashforward and Jin’s was a flashback. Also the thing that Jack said about the “Oceanic 8″ makes a lot of sense with Jin’s grave. The “6″ are definitely hiding something big…
Jin is not one of the Oceanic 6 since he is dead… it would make more sense if it were someone alive… aaron doesnt seem a good candidate either… i dont know who that could be but my guess is Sawyer…
If you recall in “Through the Looking Glass”, Desmond tells Charlie that in his vision he saw Claire and the baby getting into a helicopter and being rescued. That was what prompted him to tell Charlie that he had to go down into the Looking Glass station (and die)–because if he didn’t, then there wouldn’t be a rescue. Charlie knew he was going to die, but he sacrificed himself so that Claire and the baby could be rescued as foretold by Desmond’s vision. Based on that, I think Claire and Aaron are two of the Oceanic 8, and that Claire will die, leaving Aaron to be cared for by Kate (and which makes Aaron the sixth member of the surviving Oceanic 6). Based on recent hints and teasers, Claire will probably die in the next few episodes. The big question remaining is who is the eighth member of the Oceanic 8? And is that the person in the coffin who Jack visits at the funeral homein “Through the Looking Glass”?
Flashforward or flashback, who knows?
Fact is that there is something very strange going on with the time passing on the island, why does the “payload” take so much time to get from the boat ot the island?
Time travel?
DEREK…..Help me with the “Oceanic 8″ thing and when did Jack mention this…. I recall “Oceanic 6″ But not 8… What episode did he slip this in?
I also think that Jin was flashing backand he is dead. As the oceanic six were celebrities after they have got back, how on earth could Jin travel everywhere using his ture name? (at the hospital, he introduced himself to the guard using his own name) My second argument is the dressing of Hugo and Sun, if Jin was left behind on the island, they didn’t need to wear in black suit infront of Jin’s grave.
And I don’t really think those weren’t on the plane were part of the oceanic six. As the television already havetold the world of the list of the victoms(as in several previous episode, we knew that there were news everywhere and now the captain said that the victims’ family were informed, Ben could disguise as one of the Oceanic six in no circumstance.
And I don’t really think the Aron with Kate, no matter it’s Claire’s baby or not, was one of the Oceanic six. Jack said in the court,” there were eight of us survived at the crash, six of us get off the island” (something similar to this. I didn’t think people would consider a boby, which hadn’t been giving birth yet, to be one of the survivor of Oceanic eight.
i think claire is the one to die and kates aaron is the baby form the island….based on the recent sneak peaks michael looks like he is going to die also. atleast he says he’s there to die.
there is an oceanic 6 and only 6 members. there are 5 now with one more to come. Jins thing was a flashback but the writers could use a flash forward or back at any point in the future and change it around. thats the beauty of the show i guess. at the same time frusturating.
i dont think jin dies either it would be to obvious. they told us somone is going to die in the preview and we saw jins grave so de dies but i dont think next week. the other member of the 6 could either be lock or sawyer and for some reason i think one of them is in the coffin jack saw.
some of the statments made arent making sense tho when did there become and oceanic8? theres only been 6 mentioned ever.
i also dont think anyone not on the flight can be considered one of the oceanic 6. but its clear ben is off in the sayid flashback/forward….wouldnt it also be a big story if when the 6 were saved that there is also another guy found on the island whose been there forever. but we never have heard that being mentioned…..i only say that because i dont think any of the hostiles or rousseu are going to get off…..because i think they would call them the 6 still but wouldnt there be other news about desmond and other people like juliet being on the island
During Kate’s trial Jack said that 8 people survived the crash but that 2 later died (Jin & Claire?).
Everyone is forgetting about Penny. She said she knew about the island and had been researching it. I bet she’s the one who rescues the Oceanic 6 and people like Juliette & Ben who where not on the plane. The Oceanic 6 rescue will be made public, while Juliette, Desmond & Ben will be secretive.
maybe the scene with jin with the panda was because of the time-zone thing what happend to desmond
Everyone is forgetting a lot of possible names to be the last ‘Oceanic 6′ person. It could be Sawyer, Locke, Claire, or even the dentist or his wife.
If it is someone like Desmond, Juliette or Ben (which I seriously doubt because he doesn’t seem like he would ever want to leave the island), then they would have to pretend to be someone on the flight to be considered one of the ‘Oceanic 6′
Jin’s story was obviously a flashback. He must still be on the island (according to the date of his death on the tombstone) Sun & Hurley had to wear black because they need to keep up the story that he is dead. Which would mean that they have said he is one of the ‘8′ - someone who died after the crash.
So we are technically missing 2 people. One of the alive Oceanic 6 and one of the dead extra 2 from the ‘8′
On the tombstone it says that Jin died the day of the crash so I don’t think he would be one of the two people that Jack said survived the crash but later died due to their injuries. With that being said, Sun is pregnant, and conceived on the island, I might be getting a bit technical here but do you think anyone would have predicted the date of conception by how far along her pregnancy was.
I think that Sun’s Doctor (I can’t remember the name but I know she asks were he is when in the hospital) will play an important role. In my mind he would have to cover up the date of conception.
this oceanic 8 thing…isnt that much of a big deal, its only a story the Oceanic 6 made up to tell everybody back home, they could have picked any other 2 people to make up the 8,but who will really know if they are dead or not…unless the bodies were brought home with the oceanic 6
i agree with you but why hide the other two people why are they lying in court about what happened….somehting has to happen for them to lie about it
As there was a staged crash and the whole world presumed everyone on oceanic flight 815 was dead so surely there would be graves or at least markers for everyone on that flight. I think its a definite that Jin was never one of the oceanic 6 but seeing the gravestone doesn’t mean he’s dead. There might be more than the oceanic 6 in the ‘real world’ but the oceanic 6 was a public media term so the world only recognises or knows of 6 people.
It could be Aaron… even whe Claire was pregnant with him when the plain crashed, he could be a survivor.
But if you want to think he’s not listed as a survivor cause he was in his mommy’s belly and not actually on a plane seat.. then I ran out of ideas.. cause JIN is NOT one of the Oceanic 6… He is still in the island or got killed there.
Can’t be Claire.
Can’t be Locke?? (You never know….)
That’s why I love this show…
couple of things:
1) of course Jin’s is a flashback! There are many hints! Just got married, looking younger, the year of the dragon, working for Mr Paik. I got it right away!
2) Adam i dont agree with you… is it not possible for you that ok Jin died but there are also other characters that die???? we now know that Rousseau and Karl were shot.
And i think there’s too much elaborating on Jin flash back or forward and is he alive or not…Its clear for me that he’s dead.
3) Derek: well maybe Desmond lied in order to get charlie to go down. didnt that occur to you?
Aaron is the one of the Oceanic 6. The writers have confirmed it.
kate
jack
Aaon
sayid
sun
hurley are the oceanic 6 i am think jin is not one of the oceanic 6.
bhupi:
I think the oceanic 8(6 alive + 2 that died after the crash) will play a pretty big role. There has to be a reason that they are lying that only 8 survived the crash and 2 died after. If there isn’t a reason then why not tell the truth and tell everyone that a bunch of people lived but later died on the island. I think 6 people got off the island alive and they somehow brought 2 bodies(if the bodies even get off the island). The two people that died I think will come out later with a reason why the 6 had to claim that those 2 people survived. The only thing I know is that the 2 people that die will according to the stories will not be Ana Lucia (Hurley claimed he didn’t know her) or Jin (the grave sites the day of the crash as the day of his death).
i think the oceanic 6 said two other people survived because how would kate have Aaron and sun have a baby un less claire survived and had her baby than died and jin died the day the crash but maby have die later that day because it dosen’t say on jin’s grave what time he die at on sept,22/04