Another Theory on ABC’s Lost
The contents of this post were left in a comment by one of our readers. It was a pretty good read and figured I would turn it into a post so others could see it.
The island is largely black rock – a naturally occurring magnetic mineral. It has the uncanny property of storing electromagnetic currents – like a big magnetic tape.
Magnus Hanso – grandfather of Alvar Hanso and venture capitalist – captained his ship The Black Rock to the island in the nineteenth century. He intended to use slaves and dynamite to mine the fabled black rock and sell it. However, he was caught in a storm – as many have been near the island – and was shipwrecked.
He survived, but the slaves were lost. Whilst making a boat to leave the island, Magnus thought he could hear the screams of his cargo as the ship sank. He thought the melancholy would pass, but it did not; in fact, it was as though he could literally hear their thoughts in the last moments of their lives – even in their foreign tongue.
The whispers, the voices, the memories were stronger in those areas that were predominantly black rock. They were coming from the black rock itself. As lava cools it records the earth’s pattern of magnetic currents at the time; in a similar way, the black rock was storing all electromagnetic activity – light, sound, thought, memory.
Of greater significance to Magnus was that the black rock also held the pattern of the future. Magnus was able to faintly sense how things would be.
Magnus made a boat, returned home, kept his mouth shut about what he’d discovered, and bought the island. He came back many times and was able to navigate the safest approach. On the island, he would meditate on what the future held – what the rock was telling him – and then commit this to paper. He would then return to centres of commerce and use these predictions to speculate and invest in forthcoming wars, selling munitions. He amassed a great fortune. The secret of the island and the wealth was passed down through the Hanso family to Alvar Hanso in the 20th century.
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A mathematician named Valenzetti calculated a mathematical formula for the end of the world, the ‘core numbers’ of which are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. These numbers occur everywhere, he said, and predict earth’s destruction. This finding was presented to the United Nations; they did not believe or care and so discarded it.
Alvar learnt of this formula and knew that it was correct as it correlated with what the island had revealed to him. He enlisted the help of Valenzetti and many others to form the DHARMA Initiative, the purpose of which was to change these numbers – and so avert the predicted destruction of earth.
DHARMA was based on the island. Although the organisation was highly secretive, Alvar felt he had to share the island for the greater good of mankind. The greatest scientists he could find were brought to the island – as were gifted children who had great mental ability bordering on psychic.
Various stations were set up on the island to perform these experiments: the objective of which was to change Fate itself. One experiment was the Swan; initially, it was just a Skinner Box – a psychological experiment to test two subjects’ willingness to repeatedly press a button because they were told it was important. The intention here was to see if their faith in their ‘duty’ was sufficient to budge Fate a millimetre. It didn’t work.
Another station – the Pearl – was set up. This experiment was based on another pair of subjects who were told to observe the actions of the occupants of the Swan. The objective here, based on Quantum Theory, was to see if – by observation alone – the outcome of the Swan could be affected. It was not and neither was Fate.
. . .
It was decided to try and dam the flow of Destiny from the island to the outside world – to stop the current.
Jacob was selected as the most gifted child. He was able to move small objects with his mind, which is shown in the Orientation film.
It was hoped that if the rock could store human memory electromagnetically then, perhaps, the reverse could happen and a human mind could absorb this electromagnetic memory from the rock. The intention was always to change Destiny.
Jacob was placed at the epicentre of the island’s power in an underground chamber. Powered up, wired up, and observed by a team of scientists including Dr Marvin Candle, Jacob attempted to absorb Destiny from the black rock. Unfortunately, he failed; there was an explosion, referred to later as the “incident”.
At that moment, Jacob lost all corporeal form and was merged with the black rock itself. But he survived. His consciousness was embedded in broken fragments of the rock. His consciousness was able to move objects – as he had in human form… but now it meant he could lift himself – in the form of rock fragments and move freely. The naturally-ocurring electromagnetic field around the area of the Swan assisted in his mobility and sustained his life.
Jacob was able to move as a black cloud of dust and re-form himself into different shapes. He soon learnt that he could also use electromagnetism to conjure up images and sound. And later still, that he could ‘read minds’ as we saw he did with Eko.
DHARMA had failed in changing Destiny for the better and had actually made things worse by creating a massive anomaly. Alvar was despondent. He and his wife returned to the island to die. They laid themselves down in two alcoves and allowed Jacob to peacefully end them. In Alvar’s pocket was a pouch containing two stones – one black and one white – one for him and one for his wife. They thought that if they could, after death, find these two stones and reside in them as separate consciousnesses then they would allow Jacob to absorb them into his form. As long as the black rock existed, they would be immortal. It worked; and Jacob became a ‘three-headed’ entity, referred to as ‘Cerberus’ on the blast door map created by Radzinsky. (Cerberus was the three-headed guard dog of Greek mythology).
. . .
The ‘incident’ (as described by Dr Marvin Candle – who lost an arm – in the Orientation film) now necessitated the periodic release of the electromagnetism. The periodic build-up of power sustained Jacob/Cerberus and allowed for continued analysis of Destiny by the remaining scientists; the periodic release prevented another disaster. The whole area of the ‘incident’ was concreted. And now the Swan had a genuine use: to release electromagnetism every 108 minutes to an orbiting satellite with a 5 minute pass-over. For this task they conscripted the help of two people they knew to be spies: Radzinsky and Inman for USSR and USA respectively.
They realised they could not – or should not – try to change Destiny. However, the long-term effect of the incident was to create an anomaly in Destiny that might itself be the cause of the predicted cataclysm on earth. This needed to be corrected now. The anomaly had pulled in a ship of scientists – including a pregnant Rousseau – and shipwrecked it. [What was left of] DHARMA realised that this ship was never ‘meant’ to be shipwrecked on the island and that their meddling with Destiny would create anomalies of wider and potentially more dangerous significance.
The scientists sought to correct their mistake before it snowballed. It was a difficult task to perform without screwing up Destiny further but they had the resources.
. . .
Bea Kulgh, a DHARMA initiate, sensed a shift from an idealistic community in ‘Otherville’ towards a totalitarian cult headed by a powerful triumvirate leader. She reached out for others who felt the same, but it was impossible – any disobedience meant being brainwashed in the re-programming room (where we saw Carl). During her tour of duty in the Pearl, which was still active at the time, she was able to secretly communicate with Radzinsky and Inman via the computer. She fed them information from which – with their own reconnaissance – they were able to produce a map of the island and the hatches, which John Locke saw on the blast door in Lockdown. They removed part of the Orientation film that forbade communication via the computer so that, if they were found out and replaced, their replacements would not be hindered by that rule. And they formulated a plan to escape.
Radzinsky had been seeing images of his past – as all of the Losties have. He saw people he had tortured whilst working for the KGB. These visions were actually produced by Jacob/Cerberus. The point of the visions was as intense, life-changing therapy. It is believed that a person can overcome their own past, nature and fears to transcend into something pure and fit for DHARMA. Radzinsky had been seeing visions of a person he had tortured; he had cut out the prisoner’s eye.
The culmination of the ‘therapy’ is a Test. We saw Eko fail his Test by refusing to repent for his past – this ended badly for him when he chased after Jacob/Cerberus. We also saw Hurley fail his test when he refused to take a leap of faith off a cliff – as urged by his imaginary-turned-real friend Dave.
Radzinsky’s Test was to cut out his own eye – “an eye for an eye”. He knew none of this was real, but they had a plan to escape for which he would do anything. Kneeling before his victim, as Eko would do, Radzinsky used Inman’s US Army knife to cut out his own eye, thereby passing the Test.
. . .
When Radzinsky awoke, he was greeted by Benjamin Linus and the other Others. He was given a tour of ‘Otherville’, told the rough outline of DHARMA and what it meant. He was given a glass eye and was put to work. He appeared to be receptive to DHARMA’s aims but, in reality, all he wanted was to escape. He proceeded with the plan.
At the right time, he blew up the Arrow hatch, killing several people. He radioed Inman, in the Swan, immediately and ran across the island towards him. It did not take long before Jacob/Cerberus tracked him down, but he timed it right so that his dash would coincide with the rain showers to give him the biggest headstart possible.
Radzinsky made it to the Swan where Inman had prepared the trap. It was dark by now, and a bright light shone from the hatch; Jacob/Cerberus followed it down. Inman could see Jacob/Cerberus through his array of mirrors from the safe vantage point of the Swan lounge area. He saw Jacob/Cerberus approach; Jacob/Cerberus moved toward the open door. Radzinsky fused the lockdown door bringing it crashing down and turned the water on. The area outside the door – where Jacob/Cerberus was – filled with water. An exposed fusebox near the ladder caused a massive electrical current to pass through Jacob/Cerberus. Unfortunately, a small part of Jacob/Cerberus got under the door before being completely disabled. This part reformed as someone from Inman’s past – a daughter perhaps, or a fallen comrade – whoever it was, Inman had not yet had the visions and was frozen with emotion. He could not act to destroy this loved one in front of him and would not heed Radzinksy’s frantic pleading that it was not real and that they needed to escape now while they could. Radzinsky left him behind.
[The fusebox and water pipe are seen by Jack the very first time he goes down the hatch ladder - season 2, episode 1.]
Radzinsky continued with the plan and left the Swan with the film cutting. He made his way to the Flame where he knew he would be able to communicate with the outside world and be rescued. When he got there, he was surprised to find it deserted and, what was more bizarre, prepared for him: there was a plentiful supply of Vodka, there was a computer that played chess, there was a cat, there was even a picture of Nadia Comaneci on the wall – the Olympic gymnast who shared his birthday. He sat in front of a bank of monitors and began trying to reach the outside world – it had been such a long time. Flicking through the channels, it became apparent that the Berlin Wall had fallen and so had the Soviet Union with it. Communication was pointless. He spent the next few days in a drunken stupor. At last, Benjamin and the Others came to him.
They agreed on a truce; he had killed some of them but he could not be held completely responsible as he had not passed the Test in truth and had not been truly ready to join DHARMA. They allowed him to live so long as he never came to their camp, never fraternised with any of them, and worked at the Flame as their communications man. He would be completely autonomous, with his own livestock. He asked about Inman; they told him that Inman had been ‘persuaded’ that Radzinsky had killed himself – they had placed a faceless corpse in the Swan for him to discover when he woke up, which he would assume to be Radzinsky’s and so bury him without questioning.
At this point, the cat changed shape becoming a swirling mass of black dust – it was Jacob/Cerberus albeit temporarily smaller. Jacob/Cerberus renamed Radzinsky as Bakunin – after the famous Russian anarchist – as he had rejected his leadership. He told him that his trap in the Swan had interfered with the release of electromagnetism and had created another anomaly: a light aircraft from Nigeria was brought down. The crashing of a small plane and the loss of a few lives in itself might not be such an anomaly – as Destiny can ‘course-correct’ to a certain extent – what was more problematic was that the plane was carrying drugs. The consequence of the plane crashing – when it had never been destined to crash – was that there would be a massive slump in supply of the drug, affecting many more lives (including Charlie’s) – and the knock-on effect was incalculable.
Bakunin was tasked with tracking down the effects of the anomaly as it spread through the world and to profile each person whose life would be significantly affected by it. These people were connected one way or another to this crash or to each other and the anomaly would ripple outwards creating greater and greater waves. Bakunin tracked them down using the Flame. These people were – one way or another – put on the same plane at the same time and brought to the island so that Destiny could be corrected…. Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sawyer, Rose and the rest of Flight 815. Destiny and DHARMA were course-correcting.
. . .
Bakunin returned to the burntout Arrow station. He was remorseful. He deposited his hollowed-out Bible containing the film cutting, his glass eye which had been a gift from DHARMA, and the radio he had used to communicate with his friend Inman.
. . .
When Desmond turned the failsafe key in the Swan and caused it to implode, he was rescued by Jacob/Cerberus, but not before he had absorbed much of the Swan’s power. Now, DESmond does not see the future but DEStiny – how things are planned to happen – not necessarily how they will happen.
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wow
damn… I thought I was into Lost.
its long but it is a really good summary of what could be the whole back story of Lost.
man, sweet, make a good lost feature film !!
That is a well rounded and thorough take on the events leading up to the crash, no doubt the hardcore fans will pick it apart, looking for holes but it is the best I have heard yet!
Good Work!
Lame. There are so many holes in that theory I can see through it better than swiss cheese.
There where lots of points where they where just pulling stuff out of thin air, but some of the general ideas where very good.
Chris, you can’t make a claim like that with nothing to back it up. Let’s hear about some of these “holes”
What a terrible theory. Seriously. And Wednesday’s LOST completely annihilated it. You suck.
too bad alot of this has been destroyed by some of the later eps, hell the ep where the russian was intro’d also had sayid figuring out the dude was an other. the incident is also probably something to do with the original inhabitants.
By far the best theory I have read. Very impressive.
Incredible! thank you for this… I can’t wait to see how this unfolds
Wow! Man, you’re great! Respect!
My hat is off to you.. But I hate to say this is another time the internet is against us. The makers of lost will probably have people reading this and spell out what the greater community have thought and write this out of their plot! But it keeps them on their toes so good on ya!
unintelligent, childish theory
ok but what about Lock’s father? He died in real world and now hi is living on island … I mean was cause he was killed by Sawyer. So I think that there is no island real, it is some kind of hell or purgatory
WOW. Some of it is a bit made up I’d say. But still REALLY impressive!
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one small issue with your post there….
rousseau is Alex’s mom and Ben is Alex’s dad, Ben was already on the island from when he was i think 12 or so. so when Rousseau arrived she couldnt have been pregnant with Alex at the time. she had to have gotten pregnant on the island instead.
^^^
dont think Ben and Rousseau know each other, Alex was somehow taken from rousseau and then unofficially adopted by ben, not knowing her mother was still on the island. If rousseau and ben were together, surely rousseau would know all about the others and simply go and get her baby, who shes been looking for, for the last 16 years .
wait, don’t all pregnant women die on the island? So Rousseau had Alex on the island? or not.
They only die if the child was conceived on the island. If the child was conceived off island it can still be born on the island e.g. Claire.
The only main flaw is that Alvar is still alive according to the Official LE storyline. Also, it’s been confirmed that Bea Klugh was a nun in her past life, so she’s not necessarily DHARMA. It doesn’t address the “original inhabitants (Dharma hostiles?? indigenous?? 3-toed statue?? This theory is extremely well thought out though. I’m impressed! Bravo.
P.S. Some dude stole this post on digg and is totally stealing your thunder.
4-toed, sorry!
I want to ask a question:
Aside the test if a human being can keep pushing the button and all, if that button was so important couldn’t they simply automate it to release the energy so they can be sure it’s going to happen and not bother other people to do it?
Plain stupid.
Drugs are good for somethings.
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LOL at the “you’re a loser!” replies. I can be mean on the internet, I’m a big man!
great theory, it has some holes, but that’s not the point. the point is what he made up out of little clues. amazing.
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John, true Alez is Roesseau’s daughter, but she is not Ben’s. C’mon she was stolen from Roesseau and I am sure she was brought up believing Ben to be her father.
This was a good read.
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Could it be that Ben kills the pregnant women as a way to avenge his mothers death? And could Danielle have escaped before Ben had the chance to kill her?
This is a brilliant theory, not sure about the radzinski part, i think mikhail is telling the truth on this one. however i agree that most of the other stuff is possible if some of the gaps are sewn up by coming episodes, although im gonna take some convincing about the bea kulgh thing i think thats a little far fetched. the cerburus thing is very interesting, i hadnt noticed it before i’ll have to go and check for myself but if its true i’ve obviously dropped the ball on that. i think the bodies in the caves are probably the de groots not alvar and his wife, i think their ideology of a utopian society bears witness to the fact that they would probably want to be buried on the island. i think the fact that it is the black volcanic rock that holds the key to destiny is incorrect although clearly its something to do with a volcanic erruption that happened centuries ago on the island, the reason i think it is incorrect is that i support the ‘three heads of cerburus’ theory and that being the case the rocks buried with the (perhaps) de groots/hansos would be unable to lend them to smokey because as far as i can tell they are black and white marble not the local black volcanic rock.
I definately agree about the underground chamber as locke was determined to allow himself to get pulled in by smokey, he had already come across smokey once before and it had not threatened him so he believed it was trying to take him somewhere, this is probably where the real jacob is, i think jacob is probably in some kind of mortal danger caused by the implosion of the swan.
i think we have a lot to look forward to in the coming two episodes (21-22).
hmm… a very interesting theory… my only criticism is the MASSIVE amount of assumption! the jacob “part” of cerberus I can tell you now is off but a clever spin! I’d love to know where you got names like Bea Kulgh from cos I ut have totally missed that boat :-/ I’m also leaning widely away from the Alvar Hanso tie in becuase we have yet to even see him or the Hanso Co. even feature in the series. I personally think thats more of a seperate internet spin off than a key element to the show..
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Yeah, Wow
Think of the blastdoor map saying “Here be dragons”, isn’t it so that this is Cerberus and Jacob? The word spirituality is often condemn because of falsehood, the physical is an projection of the spiritual dimensions. So how does this blends in with this theory? They were trying from an perspective of four dimensions, that is an dimension of time change times outcome. So this and that is all an spiritual manner, Ben and the Others are initiated serving the dragon. Our old priest was killed because he knew truth, I think he confessed and was saved but the dragon accused him telling him to repent to him but he wouldn’t because he was already in heart as he in death was reunited with his brother. He knew the truth that you shall look north, that means the Lord on the throne in heavens. Only through him the fallen man will overcome destiny, this is truly not the civilization but mankinds way. Didn’t the blastdoor map say “Save yourself from hell”?
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This theory could possibly explain why pregnant women die on the island. Maybe Jacob is trying to reincarnate himself into the babies the women are carrying but so far has been unsuccessful and as a result has killed them…. But, that doesn’t really explain why the baby must be conceived on the island in order for the mother to die.
^^^^
well, if it’s an alternate reality and the baby is conceived in it, but the mother is from another reality, then it would die, perhaps? but if the baby is conceived in the other reality and then brought into the alternate reality, it exists in both, the same as the mother. i’m sure someone else could expand on that more.
im watching lost answers right now i read this post a couple of days ago and alot of it makes sense
I was always confused how Ben can have a daughter but Rousseau can be alive if all the mothers are meant to die. The obvious answer is it’s not Ben’s and Rousseau came to the island pregnant, then Ben stole the child from her. Unless it’s proof Ben left the island at some stage.
To be honest, I only watch it cos Kate is hot.
i only watch it cos kate is hot
she is hot though isnt she. Is that the tightest ass youve ever seen or what?
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Robbie your wrong ok. Lost is about how Hurley is in his institute and the owner of that institute is the head DARHMA guy in the orientation video. This island isn’t real, these people arent real. This is all Hurley’s story. Think about it. The numbers are his, the imaginary friend he had (Dave). And now this island is all his imagination. He is in the institute under observation for a government examination because he is caring a new disease in the world called “bare rock”. And everyone he met on the island he has met or seen in the real world. Everything else is just a plot used to make the show interesting. it is all about Hurley’s life and struggles. And you noticed he has gained 50 lbs rather than lost it?
if you agree or disagree with my True Theory that the producers told me! then email me @
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trust me i know the executive producer, he is my uncle and lives right next to me.
p.s. Robbie was wrong ;]
first of all, no one lives next door to their uncle. That is stupid. Second of all, the producers (you know..your uncle) have said multiple times that it is not purgatory, it is not someones imagination. I’ll leave your email up though so people can tell you how wrong you are.
how is everyone affected by the drugs that ended up on the island? and how do you guys know so much extra information thts not on the show?
paulyn, only Mini D was affected by the drugs… heavily! lol
Good reading and interesting theory. My take on what’s really going on – or the keys to the getting there – http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/01/lost-keys-to-whats-really-going-on.html
OK i must say is really well done, very interesting and impressive..but some of the point s were really invented..u could have saved us twenty minutes of reading and we would have got the same infos out of it..But very good indeed..CONGRATS
Wow man great theory, good use of examples, however i still don t get the giant foot in the Season finaly of season 1 and the relic on which locks father was tided too when lock tried to kill him. All this points to the fact that a pre-excisting civilization inhabited the island before the Black Rock crashed. If u have any Info pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e mail me.
how come locke can hear jacob but ben can’t??
I bet some of the writers of Lost frequent these sites and actually reveal some of the Lost plot, however no one beleives them, or pass it off as another post. Dwell on that for a moment.
very large and long and fantastic story, i had never heard like this before, fantastic, well done and keep it up.
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very good i thought this was very good and very complicated but can u tell me who was in the coffin was it locke or someone else.who knows…… thank you for that brilliant theory ….. james
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OK i must say is really well done, very interesting and impressive..but some of the point s were really invented..u could have saved us twenty minutes of reading and we would have got the same infos out of it..But very good indeed..CONGRATS
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A very thought-provoking theory, with many brilliant points. There is absolutly no point me arguing with any of our points, because to be honest none of us have a bloody clue!
I don’t want to wait till the end of Summer
, I want it now. Who with me?
save your time and join me.
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Mini D, yeh right, the exec producer is your uncle, that is such bollocks! why would s/he tell you? its clearly such a lie!
Interesting, but a lot of your theory is a story without any actual evidence from the show to back it up. Some of your ideas are interesting though.
Many names of the characters in the TV show “Lost” are referencing historically real people.
Many names of the characters in the TV show “Lost” are referencing historically real people.
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Everthing he said is so wrong.
Will have my rebuttle posted by end of day tomorrow.
A quality read, alot of fact, bit of fiction and you’ve covered all the bases, im looking forward to seeing inman and radzinksi’s flashbacks to see if you right, i wouldn’t be suprised if you were! one question tho (Radzinsky is Makial?)
Is there any update to this theory!!!???
becouse i really want to hear the explanation about the ending of season 3
How much time exactly did you spend thinking about this? How many times did you see the show? It’s just for entertainment man. Get a life aiight.
Said is not Arab btw, he’s indian and has a hard arabic accent from what i hear. Why can’t they get a real Arab those ABC dumb idiots?
I’m wondering if Jack and Jacob are the same person coexisting on the same timeline. Jack may have been the anomaly that may have shifted the polar axis of the earth due to an attempt to save flight 815 through a time machine on the island. Perhaps the others are really descendants and additions to the survivors of flight 815 coexisting on a the same timeline. The purge may have been an attempt to stop the plans of the Dharma initative- a conflict in changing the destiny of mankind to preserve or change the catastrophic events surrounding the flight and time space shift. Lost may be a time space limbo looping endlessly upon itself like a moebius strip. Just some thoughts…
Good theory. I cant remember a lot of stuff that has happen since lost has been off the air for so long… i think the rescue will help shed light on things… Kate is hot, too bad the attractive girls dont live long on teh show it seems
Impressive theory. Having just re-watched season 3 on DVD this theory seems to fit. Maybe some of the details are off but generally speaking I find it plausible (at least within the context of the show).
Some of these responses are just brutal though. Do any of these asshats actually watch the show?
Just to school some of the haters:
1. The Hanso Foundation ran an ad after one of the episodes in S2.
2. Ben CAN hear Jacob. I have no idea how that twit was under the impression that he couldn’t.
3. To the dolts who believe Ben is truly Alex’s father: he’s LYING.
Best Theory:
Fire Isaiah and all the “lost” great Knicks will return from wherever the hell they’ve been hiding and bring the trophy back to NY where it belongs, dammit! For all the rest of you “lost” people: attempting to predict or explain some tv show plot, albeit very creative and enjoyable to get “lost” in, that an extremely talented pool of caffeine-overdosed Hollywood script writers that are paid inflated sums of money are hired to create to keep you interested enough in staying tuned to the network that it’s aired on so that top-dollar can be charged advertisers for the time slot, is like trying to read the mind of a paranoid-schizophrenic, manic-depressive genius like myself who gets off on creating extremely long run-on sentences so that you get so lost in my bullshit that you forget why your mother and father created you in the first place: to get your OWN life and stop trying to live vicariously through “others,” especially ficticious tv characters that are never getting “lost” as they laugh all the way to the God-Dharma bank!
Absolutely bucking frilliant! Someone knows the secrets of the story!
that is the best theory i have every heard about lost. I think it is right because it is all conected and could possibly be true. I LOVE LOST
this is an AWESOME theory!!!
This is the best, most plausible, probably possible Lost theory I’ve encountered so far. Way to go!
Lost is quite clearly Atlantis ,if you know about the Atlantis stories ,the comparison is obvious , the power of the island (same as atlantis) the black smoke that protects the island (atlantis had a thing called the hydra that did just that)
the power to heal (Atlantis was known for it magical healing) The mothers that die when they give birth (atlantis called this population control and thats how they kept the population the same) the black rock ship in the middle of the island (atlantis sank and re-surfaced ship with it) the statue of the foot with four toes (Atlanteans were known to be a bit different to us) the greek influence on the island(Atlantis was around during early greek times.. everything matches
jacob is the last Atlantian alive……
Preposterous! You spit theories like a girl!
This is a superb theory, the best one that I have ever read. Kudos to the author! Now that season 4 has begun, do you have any more thoughts on the subject of Lost?
If you disagree with this theory, don’t just say “it sucks.” Say specifically what’s wrong with it, and why. It makes lots of sense to me.
I think most of these theories are pretty good, but I think we are all going to be pretty shocked when it all dovetails at the end.
Personally, I think there is an element to do with the time space continuum. Quantum physics can be interpreted to mean that anything can, and even more mind blowing, HAS and DOES happen.
David Faraday (New character introduced last week) is a physicist, who I am going to assume is a reference to Michael Faraday, or perhaps a descendant of said scientist, who was most famous for his work with electromagnetism.
While I have NO bind blowing theory as to where this is all going, I would love to hear some input from people who might have a better understanding of physics and more specifically the relationship between electromagnetism and the space time element in the unified field theory. I think there is probably something to all of this.
Please read my original comment on January 31, 2008 and then log onto this YouTube video and then maybe you’ll catch my drift re all this lost theory insanity. Otherwise……….whatever floats your boat, I guess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXzR7aKBCdE
“He knew the truth that you shall look north, that means the Lord on the throne in heavens.”
False because the king of the north is Antichrist, and maybe he meant the island with the Hydrastation.
The black smoke has never sat well with me but this theory almost manages to *plausibly* explain it. Friends with one of the writers perhaps..?
Amazing. Great theory
seems like you got it all firgured out who are u
near the top it says he bought the island? from who? you can’t buy an undiscovered island!
Crazy Wafers!!!!!! I ‘m convinced from this theory.
Wow, outstanding theory, That is awesome! You are most definitely the shiznapiel whap-crapper!
how would you compose this theory if there were no episodes made about the islands past but otherwise it was very good in explaining the super-natural ability of the island
AMAZING!…Truly Amazing! This is the bible to me! I have been searching for a good explanation to everything “lost” and now you have given me the answers. The show will be even MORE enjoyable now that I understand what is going on a little more!
Thank you Thank you!
Hope you got this copyrighted!
This is very convincing
Okay — but what about the Second Other on the Grassy Knoll?
This “THEORY” makes no sense. In my opinion ur talking through ur arse and for gods sake get a life and stop watching every episode in slow motion. I mean its a freakin tv show, its entertainment, its not real, keywords in last sEntence NOT REAL!!!!!!!!
PLEASE OH PLEASE GET A LIFE AND STOP THIS MADNESS. I BET U DONT HAVE A GIRLFRIEND, ARE U A VIRGIN, I THINK U ARE. UR LIKE ONE OF THOSE WIERD GUYS FROM TO CATCH A PREDATOR ON NBC DATELINE HOSTED BY CHRIS HANSON!
PS I LOVE LOST
JUST WATCHED SEASON 4 EPISODE 6 ( I THINK ) CALLED THE OTHER WOMAN . THIS THEORY IS FAR FROM WATER-TIGHT , HOW DO U EXPLAIN THE FRAITER OFF THE SHORE AND MR WIDMORE HIRING PEOPLE TO KILL BEN ??? HOW DOES HE KNOW ABOUT THE ISLAND ? WHY JOHN LOCKE HAS SUCH A STRONG CONNECTION WITH THE ISLAND ? WHY THERE IS A POLAR BEAR ALSO ? WHY JACOB SAID ” HELP ME ” TO JOHN LOCKE ? THE OCEANIC 8 ( FUTURE SURVIVORS ) SAYID JACK KATE BEN CLAIRES BABY( WALT AND FATHER … MAYBE ) ( THATS ONLY 6 ?? WHOS ELSE )WHY SAYID IS WORKIN FOR BEN ASSASINATING PEOPLE ? WHY THE ROCKET TOOK SO LONG TO ARRIVE ON THE ISLAND ( FARADAY EXPERIMENT ) HOW DESMOND TRAVELS BAK IN TIME TO MEET FARADAY AND MAKE HIM HIS CONSTANT ANDTELL PENNY TO FONE HIM 7 YEARS LATER OR SO ?
sayid is soo bens man he should have a tee shirt with “bens man” written on it in big black letters. i now reckon he was on the plane as he was hired by ben to be on the plane so he would blow it up mid flight and make it land on the island. all part of bens plan you see. claires baby is not really a baby but a walking bomb that was swapped for the real baby by the australian pyschic. and set off remotely by sayid who was preparing himself for the explosion. but in a bizarre twist the real baby was actually on the flight all the time as well as it was in Hurley’s hand luggage disguised as a twinkie bar. But, I hear you holler, Claire’s baby wasnt even born at that stage you fool. so I adapt. okay. so it wasnt a baby it was bernard. bernard was a plant. no bernard is a plant. a vegetable. an exploding vegetable that upon sayids subliminal command was set to suddenly explode causing the plane to come crashing down, kill a couple of hundred people, festoon the island with tonnes of fiery wreckage and disrupt the book club discussion which was about to get racey as they had reached the chapter in Alan Titchmarshes book where the housewife and the garden boy start getting jiggy in the potting shed. Only it wasnt a potting shed. Well it was. But it was also the shed that Eko’s brother used to hide his droogs in. Hence Eko saying ‘tek me to tha shed’ and the very same shed that Sawyer once slept in overnight whilst he was on the run from a young lady who he had fleeced out of her inheritance. Money that she had been set to spend in a boutique where shannon worked. And shannon would of kept the money instead of putting it n the till which would of meant that she was out of debt and would not have called that eyebrow guy, boone, over to australia to save her and they would of not been on the flight. but in a bizare twist of fate if she had not been on the flight then her seat would of been taken by Jacks half cousin who actually earns a living making wheelchairs and is on first name terms with John Locke who bought a traveling folding wheelchair from him before he set of for his outback trip in Australia which was being run by the pilot who should of been flying the plane but had to have the day off because he felt unwell because he had had a dodgy pint served to him by a barman that looked uncannily like desmond. and the pub was called ‘Brother’. Ha! But I’ll have you know that the man really loves pen ah. And you will respect his authori tah!
i once saw an episode of this show…Where are they?why dnt they phone home like ET did in that film….i cant remember the name of it…i think it was JAWS…….DID THE PIOLOT FALL ASLEEP??and how is Jack on the Island,i seen him on party of five today??Whats goin on?? is the dogs name Happy?? i seen that dog in seventh heaven so im guessin he was on the same plane as Jack back home in the future!! can someone fill me in?? xxx
I agree with clarebear cause i seen that jack guy on a party of five yesterday, and that dog was in seventh heaven so heres my theory, lost is actually a spin off show of both party of five and seventh heaven and lost is actually set before those shows and at the end of it theyll explain how jack and happy the dog will get into those shows. BOOM IM GOOD!
BRILLIANT!!
great theory, but a couple of things confuse me. and I don’t think Lost will ever explain them as well as these theory do!
firstly, what is going on??????????
secondly, why can’t they just pull lost off the air for a few weeks while they write/shoot the rest of it, and then air it all at once over the space of a week. That would be awesome. I have been watching it since day 1, and I spend so much time waiting for the next episode and it’s just too much!!!
witmore knows about the island because he bought that journal of the black rock at the auction where desmond talked with him, it explained the island’s uniqueness, thats how penny knows about the island and has been searching for it.
Many elements of this theory resonate with me. But there are some holes as with ALL the theories presented thus far. I want all readers to understand one basic premise: None of these people are “lost.” They are in the “L.(land) O.(of) S.(space) & T.(time). The acronym was my sister’s brilliant discovery, not mine. I’m no scientist but I’ve read a little Einstein and Hawking and I know that outside our limited framework of reasoning there is a universe where space and time are defined differently. Time is a human invention. Everything we experience with our senses does not begin to explain the nature of the universe. We are all traveling through space at thousands of miles per hour yet we feel like we are standing still. The Earth is spinning constantly and everything in the universe is moving and spinning as well but we can’t see it or hear it or feel it because the law of relativity states that all physical matter as well as energy is relative to all other matter and/or energy. Nothing is as it seems. This island of space and time escapes the confines of our senses. It somehow, someway, exists in a different dimension. Remember when Desmond said “it’s a bloody snowglobe?” He’s right in one sense….except that the island is not what is inside the globe…the island is outside…looking into the “relative” world of human consciousness. Just some other things to ponder.
If you want to read a decent theory go to
timelooptheory.com
This guy created his own website to discuss his theory. It’s a great read with very possible ideas
you know. not trying to be mean, but its just too boring of a theory. i couldn’t get passed the first few paragraphs.
I think this was a really good read and a great theory. To all the people bashing it. Don’t be so rude, this is someone else’s creative work…what have you done that is so great? Also, realize the date this was posted, at the time I think it fits everything together really well.
yo lost is crap
get a life u sadoes
oh no !!!!!!!!!
HERE COMES THE SMOKE MONSTER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Then why do you watch it
This is a neat theory! I think you bring up some interesting ideas and make some good points. Another great, well-thought out theory is the “Timeloop” theory. Check it out. Both of your theories mashed together may actually hold something close to the real story.
http://timelooptheory.com//index.htm
wow that was well mint !!!!
I love the parts about jacob/cerberus xD
THE ONLY LOGICAL THEORY:
JACK IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN A COMA EVER SINCE HE PLAYED TAG WITH AN OAK TREE, DOING 130MPH IN HIS SPORTSCAR DURING A DRUNKEN STUPOR HE INITIATED AFTER A PATIENT HE OPERATED ON DIED IN SURGERY(OR SO HE THINKS!) EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON EACH EPISODE IS WHAT IS PLAYING OUT IN HIS COMATOSE HEAD RELATIVE TO ALL THE CONFLICTS HE HAS FACED AND STRUGGLED WITH IN HIS LIFE RELATING TO HIS FAMILY AND MEDICAL CRISES HE HAS UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED. WHEN THE ABC EXECS DECIDE THAT THE SHOW HAS FINALLY “JUMPED THE SHARK”, THEY’LL PULL THE NOT-SO-ORIGINAL “WHO SHOT J.R.” TRICK FROM THE ‘80′S MEGAHIT TV SERIES, “DALLAS”, AND REVEAL THAT IT’S ALL BEEN A COMA-INDUCED DREAM(OR NIGHTMARE, IF YOU WILL) AND FINALLY PUT ALL YOU “LOSTEES”(YES, INCLUDING ME, DAMMIT!)OUT OF YOUR BLEEPIN’ MISERY! WHAT DO YOU THINK?
ANY CREDIBILITY TO THIS THEORY? LET ME KNOW BY POSTING A REPLY ON MY WEBSITE: http://WWW.GETYOURHEADOUTOFYOURARSE.POOPYFACE
DID YOU ACTUALLY GO TO THE WEBSITE?
DIAGNOSIS:
YOU’RE AN IDIOT!
PROGNOSIS:
NOT GOOD.
Here is my theory: the island is a spaceship. Remember Adam and Eve? They are the original aliens. The smoke monster? It is the ship’s defences, a metallic cloud that is moved through electromagnetism. The others? People kidnapped by aliens. Boom, Bam, Pow! How’s that?
Not bad. I bet a lot of this even makes it into the show, but it seems a little dense and expositional and how exactly are the writers able to work all this in without putting the audience to sleep?
My biggest problem with the logic is with this:
The crashing of a small plane and the loss of a few lives in itself might not be such an anomaly – as Destiny can ‘course-correct’ to a certain extent – what was more problematic was that the plane was carrying drugs. The consequence of the plane crashing – when it had never been destined to crash – was that there would be a massive slump in supply of the drug, affecting many more lives (including Charlie’s) – and the knock-on effect was incalculable.
Bakunin was tasked with tracking down the effects of the anomaly as it spread through the world and to profile each person whose life would be significantly affected by it. These people were connected one way or another to this crash or to each other and the anomaly would ripple outwards creating greater and greater waves. Bakunin tracked them down using the Flame. These people were – one way or another – put on the same plane at the same time and brought to the island so that Destiny could be corrected…. Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sawyer, Rose and the rest of Flight 815. Destiny and DHARMA were course-correcting.
HUH? Care to be a little more specific? I do like the patchy/Rudzinski connection, though I’m a little tired of the writer’s game of telling us one thing and then doing another and it being okay because the person (most often Ben) was lying.
Example: Ben saying he didn’t know what Dharma was, then saying he did; Ben saying he didn’t know what Cerebrus was, then saying he did… it gets a little old and feels like a contrived way to keep the show moving without having to answer questions. Don’t mind not get answers, just don’t like it when it feels forced they are not giving them… like with Ben.
One major hole in this theory is the fact that the showrunners have confirmed that theories that Radzinsky and Mikhail are the same person are wrong. From Lostpedia.com:
An early on-set name to describe the character, Patchy, was referenced by script coordinator Gregg Nations on the Fuselage forum.*
*Nations also confirmed that Mikhail is not Radzinsky and that Radzinsky is in fact dead.
[...] and Lost Links Tags: Lost This is amazing. I encourage everyone to read this story. Someone wrote this glorious story about what happened on the island before 815 crashed. It is [...]
Just a little note: electromagnetic waves are light waves, only light waves. Sound is a wave, but not electromagnetic. Thought and memory could be translated as electricity (through synapses between neurons in the brain), but not waves since those usually use neurotransmitters (chemicals) and some direct electric connections. Whew. So anyway, I’m gonna read the rest of the theory because it’s fun. Maybe I’ll comment again when I’m done.
That’s not just another Lost theory; it’s full on fan-fiction. Pretty well thought out.
Quite excellent, and impressive, but much is incorrect I believe.
For instance, Smokezilla and Jacob I don’t believe are one and same. Ben directly harnessed Smokezilla, while he cannot even find Jacob anymore, I find it tough to believe the two are the one and same.
[...] I know a number of fans have been buzzing during the past week about a new theory, posted over at Lost Review. The author of this theory hasn’t yet updated it in light of what we learned last week about [...]
Superbly written ! Hats off !
“Said is not Arab btw, he’s indian and has a hard arabic accent from what i hear. Why can’t they get a real Arab those ABC dumb idiots?”
He’s not Indian either, genius. He is of Indian descent. His parents are Indian, but Naveen was born and raised in South London. He has a very South London accent. And given your (lack-of) mastery of the English language, and how to communicate in it, I’d refrain from calling others dumb idiots.
I like it. I missed some episodes her and there so I am going back through the archives and watching them but this theory is great. It presents a credibal possibility of the dervivity of the Island and its existance inhabitants leading up to the current day!! More please!!!
This theory, which I linked to beucase of Jnensen’s most recent article, is not new. It’s old as the date above clearly shows. Not only that, but I doubt that the original poster was the actaul author. I have read this theory in 2 other places. At least one of those places the person claimed to be the original author.
If you want some good theories go to http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/ and look for the top rated theories. They tend to be the best ones!
nice
This is an astounding analysis that not only displays your breadth of insight, but also your capabilities as a storyteller. I see Lost in a new light now.
Doesn’t matter what you think or theorize, just enjoy the show.
That’s partly why it is called “Lost” — you’re not supposed to get it, you’re just supposed to watch it. writers are allowed to write things anyway they want. Nothing needs to make sense
One addition:
The numbers were broadcast from the island to the outside world as a way of keeping the non-island members of the Dharma Initiative up to speed on the progress of the experiments on the island. If one of the broadcasted numbers were to change, they would know that dharma had been successful in averting the coming disaster.
It was this broadcast that led Rousseau’s boat to wreck on the island, as well as to drive Sam Toomey to commit suicide, and Leonard to go insane after they picked it up from a Sydney listening post.
my theory is split between the garden of eden and the resurfacing of atlantis. both are excellent theories but i swing towards the eden theory best, not being a religeous man but i think the flashbacks could have some reference to stories in the bible. some characters names reflect biblical ones ie. michael, jacob, aaron etc. i think locke could be a jesus christ character, and the object of the island is a gateway to heaven itself for those who deserve to go through. the others are really believers who wish to see a higher power. the smoke monster is really a serpent who judges those who it deems fit to survive which is why it spared ecko only to take him at a later date. the numbers add up to 108 which if u check psalms 108 talks about a way into eden. lost is my favorite tv show and i love the fact that theres so many theories as to what is going on. think im going to start watching again from the beginning to see if ive missed anything.
Amazing, really. Just missed one thing…what about “the purge” and the hostiles??
I agree with the whole Hanso part by the way. It came to me when Widmore bought the log book one of the sailors on the “Black rock” had written (I mean, what kind of a ship name is ther uh??hehehe). He obviously used it to help track the island-or tought it would anyways.
last finale jack now wants to go back to the island…how exactly is he going to find it, i like the show and dont want it to end i just want to know who kate ends up with jack or sawyer..cant have em both so make up your mind already!!!!
While it may seem that the initial theory has holes, the basis is well thought out. The Casimir Effect, mentioned in the training film at The Orchid, supports this theory’s basis in electr-magnetism.
Brilliant theory. Maybe I’m just being pedantic, but thoughts & sound aren’t electromagnetic are they (so they wouldn’t get “stored” on the “black rock”) ?
WHAT HAPPEN TO MULDER AND SCULLY? ARE THEY SAFE?
SOOOO good
sucks tho when u find out the truth isnt there
its a story that you shouldnt know
ur not supposed to its supposed to have holes
but if….if they do tell us then itd suck finding out the exact opposite happens
I think writers in lost have no idea where they are taking this tv serial. Continuation of random thoughts wasting world’s time.
This is the best lost theory I have heard so far. It all makes sense to me, I cant find any loop holes. There are certainly a lot of new things that are not explained, but i dont see any reason why this is wrong. I like this theory a lot
I agree with Andy when I say that this is the most well thought-out Lost theory I have ever read. Although I really think that 815 was brought there for a more cryptic reason that will never be revealed on the show. It will take a lot of research and really piss off those part-time watchers. Great insight.
you think that theory was great? Its pretty good but the one I just recently read one the ABC message boards smokes everyone. Its an absolute must read and Im not altogether sure this is not a leak from the writers to test the waters for the ending of the series. Below are the links:
http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/lost-a-theory-of-everything-the-final-solution-bydonald-a-salerno-jr
http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2009/03/lost-theory-of-everything-final.html
this is the best season i have seen yet laock dies then comes back to live on the iland and is going to kill ben
good theory but how can you call it a complete one without once mentioned the name richard.
http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html
thats the best theory, no holes, no remaining questions
nice theory.. but sooooo wrong now that we are in season 5… LOL
The writers make it up as they go. Believe it.
That anyone could “put it all together” before the writers have, is a credit to the imagination and creativity of some of the people here. I would not be surprised in the least if they (the writers of the show)didn’t actually get some of their ideas from the theories posted by the fans.
I personally think the show will have a hard time making all the “mysterious” little bits and pieces come together as they threw them into the episodes as they went, not knowing themselves just how they would tie all together.
As much as like the show, I predict a clumsy,lame, or perhaps even a silly ending in the final season, because they basically wrote themselves into a corner. They had no real plot or guide (such as a novel or movie script)and will have to reach deep to make it appear as though they did.
Worse case…they may even pull a “Sopranos” ending, which was in fact no real ending at all.
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM .. YOU MADE IT UP?
The producer of Lost said, between season 3 and 4, that they already had an idea of how the story would continue and end in a final season 6.
So I’m guessing that this season will start with the oceanic six all in la like the plane never crashed, and out fellow losties on the island will be transported to current time, not sure excatly how this will play out, I really hope that they all remember eachother, but I have doubts that will happen.
I’m wondering how the island people will be explained if the crash never happened, I’m assuming that the bomb effected more people on the island than we realize. I wonder if Ben will be on the island still when we return.
I did read somewhere that he works for a college as a professor.
I’ll just be pissed if this is all in Hurleys head.
You gotta wonder how much of the show this guy has seen! I’ve just watched all 5 seasons in 3 days and this theory makes no sense, still nice try but no cigar
^it was posted in 2007, so obviously he hadn’t seen as much as we have now…..
um, i wish you are in this DVD pushingthebutton.com
It’s all a dream and Jack will wake up back in the “Party of five show”